I believe that they are. I think the intent of VLC is to be a good all around video player that can play all known and available formats. I don't know if they've fully achieved this but they've done pretty well.
As far as your original question goes, there isn't a good answer. There isn't one good fool proof video format that is the absolute best. MP4 comes close but not close enough. And if you are doing MP4 there is the question of which MP4 to use. There are a lot of versions of it and lots of different audio/video codec combinations you can use. I personally am doing ipod compatible Quicktime files for the moment and flash video for embedding on my site. But I'm in the process of rethinking everything right now and may end up doing about 4 formats each with their own feeds. WMV, MP4 (ipod and PSP compatible) 3GP and Flash. So there ya go. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, that was it; thanks. Do you know if VideoLAN Client is planning on > continuing to support Windows Media formats in its Mac client, even though > Microsoft is discontinuing it own support for Apple's platform? Just > wondering if you know... > > Harold > > > On 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > (As far as I know...) VLC == VideoLAN Client. > > > > So you are using VideoLAN. > > > > > > See ya > > > > > > On 4/5/06, Harold Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Good to know. I think I'm using VideoLan on my Mac at home. I think. > > > (I may just be using VLC right now; I forget.) > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Or you could suggest to your uses that they install VideoLAN -- http://www.videolan.org/ > > > > > > > > > (VideoLan supports playing Ogg Theora, as well as almost every other > > > video format.) > > > > > > (There actually already seems to be quite a large install base for this > > > already. So there's probably more people who can watch Ogg Theora movies > > > than you expect.) > > > > > > > > > > > > See ya > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Harold, > > > > > > > > Just another point (that I forgot to mention before). If you want to > > > > support Ogg Theora video, but are worried that browsers won't support it, > > > > you could always use the Free and open source applet that plays it. You can > > > > get more info here: > > > > > > > > Cortado > > > > http://www.flumotion.net/cortado/ > > > > > > > > > > > > (It's akin to the Flash video player people are using. But works with > > > > Ogg Theora.) > > > > > > > > > > > > See ya > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > If you implement the MPEG4 standard then you have to pay someone a > > > > > "tax" to use it. Specifically, you have to pay these guys: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mpegla.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MPEG4 is NOT an "open standard". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See ya > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Harold Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MPEG4 an open source > > > > > > format? Or is > > > > > > that open standard? (Or both?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I don't think there is one defacto standard video > > > > > > format. > > > > > > > There's a whole set of formats that are currently being used: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MPEG > > > > > > > WMV > > > > > > > QuickTime (.mov) > > > > > > > M4V (iPod) > > > > > > > MP4 (MPEG4) > > > > > > > FLV (Flash Video) > > > > > > > RM (Real Media) > > > > > > > Xivd > > > > > > > Ogg Theora > > > > > > > Most vlogs I go to regularly support around 4 of these formats. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone seems to be trying to support as much as possible to > > > > > > get the widest > > > > > > > possible audience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honestly, I think it's early enough in the game where we can > > > > > > influence and > > > > > > > perhaps even determine which format will become the defacto > > > > > > standard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As soon as you get enough browsers/players reading it, and get > > > > > > enough free > > > > > > > (and maybe non-free) vlog hosting providers producing it, it > > > > > > will become the > > > > > > > defacto standard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See ya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Harold Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Charles, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the first I've heard of Ogg Theora, and I am *into* > > > > > > open > > > > > > > > source; that is, I run Linux on a PC and on an old Powerbook > > > > > > at home, > > > > > > > > though I can't say I use it every day (or even every week or > > > > > > month, > > > > > > > > for that matter). I have my doubts that Ogg Theora will > > > > > > become the de > > > > > > > > facto standard; I mean, look at Ogg Vorbis. How many of you > > > > > > (reading > > > > > > > > this) even know what Ogg Vorbis is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're perhaps right, however, about one format or another > > > > > > becoming > > > > > > > > the de facto standard in the future. Look at what happened > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > Flash; now you'll find it installed in nearly every browser > > > > > > out there. > > > > > > > > And though I admire your idealism about Ogg and its future, > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > format do you think is the *current* de facto standard? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback, > > > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the only way to really make all (or most) browsers > > > > > > support one > > > > > > > > > standard video format is to force them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, we do this by making a single video format the > > > > > > defacto > > > > > > > standard. > > > > > > > > > In other words, all of us vloggers just start using one > > > > > > video format, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > eventually, the browser makers will feel compelled to > > > > > > support that > > > > > > > format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, this doesn't mean that we don't support other > > > > > > formats. It just > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > that as a baseline we always support that one video format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (My vote is for Ogg Theora to be the defacto standard for > > > > > > the reasons I > > > > > > > > > previously mentioned.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want an example of this working.... Just look at > > > > > > RSS. It's now > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > supported by all the browsers because it was a defacto > > > > > > standard. I.e., > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > browsers added support for RSS because everyone was using > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See ya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Harold Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish there was a format that played great online on most > > > > > > browsers > > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > > would still be IE, unfortunately) and played just as well on > > > > > > the video > > > > > > > iPod > > > > > > > > > and the Creative Zen Vision:M device... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Enric < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3ivx creates mp4 with AAC that's compatible with > > > > > > quicktime 6 & 7, > > > > > > > iPod > > > > > > > > > > > and I suspect also the PSP player. It also looks quite > > > > > > good with > > > > > > > dual > > > > > > > > > > > pass encoding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Enric > > > > > > > > > > > -======- > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cirne.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , "Harold Johnson" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < harold.johnson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response, Enric. How in particular do > > > > > > you fing > > > > > > > 3ivx > > > > > > > > > > > > fits the criteria? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Enric <enric@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3ivx...though I haven't tried iton PSP, it fits the > > > > > > other > > > > > > > criteria. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Enric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van > > > > > > Dijck" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want an answer too. I suspect it's a certain > > > > > > encoding for > > > > > > > mp4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that plays on older quicktime installs. And on > > > > > > the video iPod > > > > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > > > > > > the PSP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if possible). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux > > > > > > <supercanadian@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO, it's Ogg Theora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can see why here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://maketelevision.com/log/why_ogg_theora_matters_for_internet_tv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See ya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/3/06, Harold Johnson < harold.johnson@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I suspect this one has probably been > > > > > > debated a > > > > > > > > > gazillion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mazillion times, but I'm going to introduce > > > > > > the topic > > > > > > > > > > > anyway: At > > > > > > > > > > > > > this point > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in time, what do you think is the best > > > > > > overall digital > > > > > > > video > > > > > > > > > > > > > format for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > videoblogging? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > -- > > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. > > > > charles @ reptile.ca > > supercanadian @ gmail.com > > > > developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ <http://changelog.ca/> > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! 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