I have a lightweight JS function I use, and fast start works just fine.

The user has to click the poster frame to start the video, but at that point the embed is created and fast start .. starts ... no need to wait for download.

http://www.davidmeade.com

On 4/16/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
This method that Enric has created will not work for me because it
requires the user to click on a posterframe in order to start the
video. This will not work for a fast start option, as far as I know.

Also, the vpip script is apparently around 600 lines of code which is
an overkill for launching a video.

On Apr 16, 2006, at 1:12 PM, David Howell wrote:

> An easy way to be "clear" is to say what you mean and mean what you
> say.
>
> By stating "I'm pretty sure you are not clear" could indicate that I
> am not clear on what is being said. Stating "I dont think your site is
> clear" means a whole other thing. Stating "I went to your site and it
> is not clear from the IE error" is yet another statement.
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> Words words words...they do mean so many things.
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> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> I think you misinterpreted my voice then. While you were being sharp
>> and discounting my question as worthwhile, I simply said:
>>
>>> David, I could be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure you are not
>>> clear. I had a look at your site and you use the embed code
>>> inside an
>>> object. Thus when people begin to update their IE explorer browsers
>>> with the latest patches, etc. they will likely encounter an active-x
>>> button in need of confirmation.
>>
>> When I said "clear", I meant "in the clear", maybe that was the
>> confusion.
>>
>> Anyway, I am considering not updating our code. Especially if this is
>> just to suit an older model of IE.
>>
>> Its getting to the point where I may start signaling out Internet
>> Explorer users and sending them to the Rocketboom Mars website to
>> discuss why there are there.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 12:51 PM, David Howell wrote:
>>
>>> Youre correct and I apologize for my curtness. I guess I was put off
>>> by Andrew shooting off that my site might be broken and that I didnt
>>> know what I was talking about without him even making an attempt to
>>> check to see if what he was saying was true or not.
>>>
>>> Again, my apologies.
>>>
>>> David
>>> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>>>
>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <bill@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The thing is that this group was set up to help people. I've always
>>>> had the attitude that no matter how often a particular issue
>>>> comes up
>>>> on the list I always will answer it if I have the answer. Sometimes
>>>> the solutions to the issue changes, and sometimes the person
>>>> asking is
>>>> new and hasn't searched the archives (and if you've ever had the
>>>> experience of trying to search the group archives you know it's
>>>> not a
>>>> good way of finding an answer--especially if you don't know exactly
>>>> what terms you might be looking for). So in the spirit of making
>>>> the
>>>> group a welcoming resource for new videobloggers I would tend
>>>> not to
>>>> dismiss people for asking a question or bringing up an issue that's
>>>> been addressed before. It's something that happens frequently on
>>>> this
>>>> list but it should not be discouraged IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Streeter
>>>> LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
>>>> www.lofistl.com
>>>>
>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <taoofdavid@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll see your sarcasm and raise you a "tough shit".
>>>>>
>>>>> It's assumed that if one joins this list, then one reads the posts
>>>>> here. If you arent reading the posts, then why join the group?
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides, not taking the measures to properly present your work to
>>>>> your
>>>>> viewers *is* the responsibility of the owner of the site. Not
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> elses. Once I knew that the active-x changes were coming from MS,
>>>>> both
>>>>> being announced on this list AND a multitude of other sites
>>>>> reporting
>>>>> it, I took measures to fix the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a warning on the "Home" section of this group about the
>>>>> number of emails this list can produce AND offers a solution. Dont
>>>>> come crying when you cant keep up.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Ozawa" <ryanozawa@>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On 4/15/06, David Howell <taoofdavid@> wrote:
>>>>>>> Like I said, this was all brought up a while ago on this
>>>>>>> list. If
>>>>>>> people didnt take the time to resolve their issues then...ah
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> C'est la vie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darn right. Shame on anyone who slacked off and dared not process
>>>>> each of
>>>>>> the hundreds of messages that flow through here each week!  If
>>>>> you've got
>>>>>> any questions, need help or advice, tough cookies.  You've had
>>>>>> your
>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - --
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>> HawaiiVog.com
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