just point-making and requests for direct answers for sake of clarity.
i believe i have spoken from a balanced perspective.
cheers,
sull
On 4/21/06,
Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
off-list here, Sull...
Sounds like you have some sort of personal beef here? I really don't
get the hostility.
-Josh
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From: Michael Sullivan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Apr 20, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> but I do not believe they had the right intentions in
> the first place.
tricky, it is... right?
like the fireant promo videos which i am guessing are people who dont
use or never heard of fireant and were picked off the street....
of course, like you.... that is just a piece of speculation. but
wouldnt that be dishonest too?
or maybe i can speculate on why fireant.tv doesnt link to other
projects in this space since launching your new directory... blip
does, mefeedia does, vlogdir does, vlogmap does, vb-universe does.
again, busy i know. but this is where speculation can get nasty.
frankly, i am tired of hearing about it. veoh heard the complaints
and acted. does apple do this? any other company listen and act as
veoh has done?
let's get honest, shall we?
sull
On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
No, its not about attribution.
Its about falsely portraying people as members of your community when
they are not. Its about dishonesty and bad business practice.
I do feel that Veoh took the right steps to solve the problem in a
timely fashion, but I do not believe they had the right intentions in
the first place.
-Josh
On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> it's still more about the attribution more than anything else....
>
> mefeedia "aquires" feeds too. i dont have a problem with that. do you?
>
> the attribution issue has been addressed. i am satisfied. are you?
>
> sull
>
> On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full clip
> rather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used
> vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had a
> growing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed to
> terms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. This
> was not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for
> them. They forced "users" into an opt out situation when they had
> never in fact opted in. This is dishonest.
>
> -josh
>
>
> On 4/20/06, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > exactly!!!
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> > Michael Verdi wrote:
> > For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete
> > work.
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