thankfully, some organized efforts have been made to try and stop the degrading of the open internet and bandwidth usage.... which is what the videoblogging medium is obviously very much dependent on
agreed, sull. without the ability to participate unimpeded, this discussion would be a moo point (like a cow's opinion. it doesn't matter).
ha! there! a television reference! back on track! :)
On 5/15/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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critiquing is definately needed and i am glad that you, devlon and many others do this regularly.
i think some have linguistically tried to prevent certain types of content from sharing this space. arguments like "rocketboom is not a vlog" come to mind.
it starts with interpretive language and tends to evolve into arguments over content.
in the context of videoblogging.... people have sad things like 'this is not what this is about'
when responding to videos that are not fitting into certain idealogies.... and its been common to not call such a 'channel' a vlog because of its content and instead just call it internet TV shows.... in order to somehow preserve 'vlog' as a special medium for "better" content that does not resembled TV.
so, yeah, its all linguistic linguine at the end of the day.no one that i know of is trying to prevent anything.
right...not a true effort. no organized activity around the stopping of bad content.
but plenty of discusouse... i dont know, maybe talk is cheap so therefore no one is actually trying to prevent anything.... i guess it depends on how you look at the chatter.
thankfully, some organized efforts have been made to try and stop the degrading of the open internet and bandwidth usage.... which is what the videoblogging medium is obviously very much dependent on.
sull
On 5/15/06, Anne Walk < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:hi sull,
as you say, no one can control the direction of content (that may change shortly and i'm curious to see how discussions will reflect that change). there is a difference in my mind between controlling the direction (impossible, currently) and critiquing it. no one that i know of is trying to prevent anything.On 5/15/06, Michael Sullivan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:yeah, i'd say this is in tune with my head.
a few good shows here and there....
but i was watching 90% HBO (though there season scheduling is pisses me off).
the last show i was hooked on outside of HBO was X-Files.
besides watching every single episode of six feet under, i think 'The Wire' is one of the best shows i've seen in a while. worth back watching on DVD if anyone hasnt seen it.
was into West Wing sporatically and watched the finale last night.
my in-laws were making fun of it the whole time because "nothing happened" :o
i think the purpose of my asking this question is to clarify a bit of the debates around TV and Videoblogs. TV the content.... TV the business.... TV the technology etc...
The fear of "TV" contaminating the vlogosphere... stems from the content and business aspects. I believe people should talk about it and i dont want any more bad content than anyone else (although bad and good content is based on individual opinions as we see in this thread). I certainly dont want the vlogosphere to be less free and controlled as TV is. This latter issue is much more worthy of my focus... because nothing can be done about the content issue beyond better attention filters. Trying to prevent content from pouring in is the wrong approach... wrong in more than one way.
The issue of controlling entities... that is a real serious concern. that is where we should all be focusing our attention. Not... - thats not a vlog, this is a vlog no its not yes it is its a show its a vlog its a vodcast now a videoblog - blah blah.
i am all for being the mediums "police" but not at all interested in policing peoples content. i hope that more people see it this way one day.
sullOn 5/14/06, Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- manipulation
- repetition
- lowest common denomenator
- propaganda
- a conveyor or red herrings
- a battleground for our souls
- an addiction
- ill-used
Cable, no, not just cable but HBO is much better. I watch HBO's shows, but
on DVD. I don't pay for cable. My name is Jan and I'm a recovering
television addict.
Television is one reason why I joined the ranks of the faux press.
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Subject: [videoblogging] Re: What is Your Definition of TV
For the defenition of TV is;
Negative;
-A load of censored crap.
-Lots of sickening medical commercials at dinertime.
-1 hour for a 15 minutes show.
-Big waste of time.
-Governmental lies over and over again and called news.
Positive
-Shows my DVD's
-Shows rented uncensored movies
Blips
http://vlogmatic.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Sullivan"
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> Just want to dredge out what you think of first when you think of TV
> (excluding the bube tube you watch video on of course ;-)
>
> thnX
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