I think that for most vloggers, they won't bother adding semantic HTML (like rel-enclosure, class-video, or anything) unless they get something else out of it. (Or unless it comes out of some tool.)
I've been working on a _javascript_ thing that creates a little DHTML player if you use class-video. For example...
<a class="video" href="" type="application/ogg">...</a>
So, people who would use my _javascript_ thing would be incentivized to add a class-video so that the DHTML player works. (That of course would have the added advantage of letting other software "understand" what is and isn't a video.)
But that assumes the vlogger has the skills to do the HTML coding (to add the semantic HTML and bring in the _javascript_ thing).
Alternatively, the tools vloggers use to create posts could automagically produce the appropriate semantic HTML.
See ya
On 5/30/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is unnecessary. I have never met a blogger who have put up a thumbnail
> and then not used it as a link to the video. All you need is
> rel="enclosure" - if that link points to a video resource then you can
> safely assume that the first image contained in the link is the thumbnail.
>
> e.g. <a href="" rel="enclosure"><img src="" /></a>
I only wish people were so consistent and reliable. Truth is that
there is vast inconsistency in the wild.
Many people use text links to point to videos, sometimes they use
special "play button" icons to link to videos (not exactly a
thumbnail). Sometimes people link to an HTML page with the media
embedded and somtimes they just embed the media and do not use an
image to link to it. In practice relEnclosure is rarely, if ever used.
We run into all sorts of problems like this trying to parse HTML
descriptions when we aggregate feeds on FireAnt.tv.
I don't think adding additional "semantic" HTML attributes would help
much either. Often the bloggers who post with strange HTML conventions
aren't the type of people who know much about HTML. I certainly
wouldn't expect them to grok a Microformat like rel="media:thumbnail"
... but then perhaps broad acceptance is not really the goal of this
proposal anyway.
-Josh
On 5/30/06, Andreas Haugstrup < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is unnecessary. I have never met a blogger who have put up a thumbnail
> and then not used it as a link to the video. All you need is
> rel="enclosure" - if that link points to a video resource then you can
> safely assume that the first image contained in the link is the thumbnail.
>
> e.g. <a href="" rel="enclosure"><img src="" /></a>
>
> - Andreas
>
> On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:31:24 +0200, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > an idea just hit me out of the blue ... it may be stupid, or it may be
> > already done, but I figured this group could let me know on either ...
> >
> > You know how we have rel=enclosure for links in a post that should be
> > enclosed in a feed ...
> > how about a new micro-format for rel=media:thumbnail
> >
> > rel=media:thumbnail could be added to an image in a post so that this
> > image could be included as the still image for the MRSS extension.
> >
> > services like blip which cross post to your blog could include the
> > rel=media:thumbnail automatically and feedburner could then insert that
> > image into your MRSS info (feedburner already inserts some MRSS in
> > there).
> >
> > I've got a few cool ideas in the back of my head on ways to consume a
> > feed,
> > but a few of them would work far better if I KNEW what image the blogger
> > wanted to use to represent thier video/audio file. This sort of solution
> > would allow for a much broader adoption of the media:thumbnail element in
> > RSS.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
> <URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ >
> Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.
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