Wow... sometimes I proof read stuff, but often not or I'd never right it... sorry about all the typos... if my brain stuttered, it's there. :)
On 1/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So much to say I actually started to write an email twice, but I had to > stop. > > It's brilliant! I don't know where you get these crazy ideas from but > keep it up! ;) > > I like Peter's idea btw... but I can expand on it GREATLY... this > could well be only the tip of the iceberg. > > I say, save the source if you have the space on your servers. Why? > Think about in the future creating "blip projects".... think flickr > groups... but it's not about simply sharing... they're PROJECT > groups... they're about collaborative editing and organizing... either > rough cut editing online (with original source videos!)... using > blip's future online editing tools... or by downloading clips, editing > and reuploading to the blip projects. > > Maybe... you just want to embrace the remix... > > Or maybe you steal apple's "rip, mix burn" slogan. > > And you adopt a strategy, of "Shoot, upload, mix, publish!" > > "Blip Projects" would be descrete groups... like a pbwiki... or say > this yahoo group... that can be public or private... or many stages > inbetween. > > They could be used to collaborate... say... a "vloggercon project" for > vloggers to upload raw footage to share publicly, organize and > collaboratively edit. > > ....or what about offering some white label version of this to podtech > or rocketboom and others with "correspondents in the field". They > got the correspondents go out in the field... covering CES, and > macworld and they're to damn busy in the field to do any editing... > they're not sleeping... they may be in bed... with each other even... > but they're not sleeping... because it's CES... so they upload the > footage to their "Podtech CES Project on blip.tv" so the podtech > editors who are well rested can organize, grab source and edit > together shows. > > But that's not it... no. not by a long shot... because... what if you > were in a war zone and wanted to vlog... and you had limited > resources, editing time, software, tech, and broadband.... say you had > a blog and it was called Alive in Bagdad and you needed some > collaborative space to upload and share raw footage with your > co-conspirators state-side with their fancy macbooks, and their > broadband and editing software.. > > But wait that's not it!? What if you were in the bush in africa... > like literally in the bush... shooting all this amazing footage of > wild dogs, and elephents and lions and rhinos!? Oh... wait, that's > wildcast.net! > > It's not like you'd have a broadband connection in the bush, nor a > mobile editing station... maybe you'd upload some raw clips via sat > phone and blips intro & outro tool would be GREAT for that! Slapping > an intro... a title sequence and an outro on it, transocding it to > flash an mp4 and posting it all to your vlog... at wildcast.net > > But also may you could also upload some raw footage, some audio clips, > some voice over material and what not to "Project Wildcast on blip.tv" > and your conspirators in London could mix together some superb shows. > > But wait... maybe you're on the road... maybe you're covering a > presidential campaign with three other people... maybe that of John > Edwards? You're not all on the road at the same time.... but you > need to be able to collaborate with your compadres to share the > load... maybe you need some place to upload raw footage for your > conspirators to edit and post? > > > And let's not forget the original idea either... the idea of just > having simple intro's and outros. > > Maybe you've got a video cameraphone... maybe it's a Nokia n70, or a > N93 or N95 and let's say you shoot some footage of someone getting > tazered in a library in california... or maybe you're on vacation and > a tsunami hits... I don't know... use your imagination... > > The point is you can just hit the old share this video button on your > phone... and you send your footage off to blip... you key in a > title... "i just saw something that might change the world"... and 30 > minutes or an hour later there it is, a post on your vlog... titled... > "this might change the world" and there's your clip... not in 3gp > format as you shot it, but in a very shareable and viewable flash... > and a nice mp4... > > So what if maybe this ONE video clip of some kid getting tazzered at a > library might not actually change the world... yeah, probably not, but > maybe... just maybe the aggregate... of thousands and thousands of > people just like you... doing the same thing... civil servents of the > camera... doing their civic duty... shining camera's into all the dark > but also quite often wonderful corners of the world... and sharing > those videos with the click of a button... not in realtime but web > time... that sort of ubiquity, that instant access, press button > simplicity to shoot and share something with potentially the entire > world... maybe the aggregate of thousand and thousands of people > will.. maybe, one day change the world... maybe like an idea that's > time has come... in some sense it already has. > > > That or maybe you're just some guy who has a sub $100 digital camera > that takes some nice 320x240 video in AVI format... eww... and doesn't > like nor care about editing. > > Maybe you just want to shoot random clips of things like cats... or > dogs chasing their tails... or sunsets or clouds or hot air > balloons... and press the send button. > > Maybe you don't want to have to transcode them to MP4... and add a > title sequence... or throw your creative commons licensce on the > outro. Maybe you just want to point and shoot, upload it and "forget > about it"... and just now that it'll be on your vlog in a nice easy > and viewable flash and mp4 format... and what is so wrong about that? > > Making vlogging more accessible to more people... more people... less > boundries... less necissary technology... more simplicity. > > Maybe video blogging won't ever be free to really be art until it is > as simple and free as a number two pencil... and when video is as > cheap as words... maybe only then it'll be then be free like those > words that we throw around so cheaply... to become the texts, the > novels, the books and words that inspire a revolution... or pacify a > nation... or once again... change the world. > > Maybe there's a direct inverse relation... between the cheapness and > accessibility of a thing... the number of people whom have access to > it... and it possibilities to be a medium of greatness. > > > Heh... and btw Jackob of vimeo made the mistake of posting both their > business plan and what a video goes through after youupload it to > vimeo to flickr. Direct from the whitey boards in the heart of the > college humor labs. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakob/352221793/ > > You should totally "steal" that... especially the "biz plan". They nailed > it! > > It's briliant! > > LOL > > Keep rocking blippers! > > And keep rocking vimeo'ers too! > > -Mike, he of many cheap words. > mefeedia.com > mmeiser.com > evilvlog.com > intermediated.com > > On 1/10/07, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, users control with sensible defaults sounds right. How about > something > > like this: > > > > By default, the original file gets the prepend and append, and the flash > > file too, and those are the versions you make publicly available. Include > an > > option to prepend-append to existing videos I uploaded earlier. > > > > The original file stays available too (at .../original/...), and make that > > available to the content creator, but not to the public, *unless* the > > content creator checks the "for appended videos, make unappended > unchanched > > version available to public" checkbox. > > > > At any time, the content creator can switch prerolls/postrolls and re-do > the > > append operations for 1 video or all videos. This way I can change my > intro > > and attach it to all future videos, or to *all* videos. > > > > That'd be my personal preference. > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Interesting, > > > > > > So long as its always under the full control of the creator, Im not > > > sure people will even think of it as an altered video modified by you. > > > Indeed if people use the features to put titles, credits, license > > > info, or adverts into their video, they might not want the 'original > > > unaltered' video to be available at all? > > > > > > For me, if its under the users control, its more like a simple form of > > > 'online video editing' that you are offering, will be fascinating to > > > see what others think. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "Mike Hudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Soon, soon, and my apologies for the sneak peak there :) We've still > > > > got some more testing and debugging to do before we can really release > > > > it to the public. > > > > > > > > Let me ask everyone a question about how we implement this feature, > > > > actually. In order to do this right we have to create copies of your > > > > original uploaded files which include your custom intros and outros. > > > > This means that we would no longer be displaying your original, > > > > unaltered, unchanged video file to the public. We would instead be > > > > displaying a version of your video file which includes our own > > > > modifications. > > > > > > > > How do we do this correctly, without upsetting people? One primary > goal > > > > of ours is to always, always, always make your original video file > > > > available somewhere. It's very important to us. But how do that in a > > > > user-friendly way, and do we make it available in cross-posts? Do we > > > > only make the modified file available in cross-posts? How about > > > > cross-uploads to Archive.org? > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>] > > > On Behalf Of Peter Van Dijck > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:51 PM > > > > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros & Outros > > > > > > > > > > I have been WAITING for that forever, please make it live as > > > > > soon as you can > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a > > > > > > public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon! > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: > > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>] > > > > > > On Behalf Of Bill Cammack > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM > > > > > > > To: > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros & Outros > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blip's done it again! :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <blockquote>You can now use blip.tv to automatically > > > > > insert intros > > > > > > > and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and > > > > > outros for > > > > > > > your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll > advertising > > > > > > > that you sell yourself.</blockquote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Bill C. > > > > > > > http://ReelSolid.TV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > > > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: > > > > > http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ > > my job: http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >