Wow... sometimes I proof read stuff, but often not or I'd never right
it... sorry about all the typos... if my brain stuttered, it's there.
:)

On 1/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So much to say I actually started to write an email twice, but I had to
> stop.
>
> It's brilliant!  I don't know where you get these crazy ideas from but
> keep it up! ;)
>
> I like Peter's idea btw... but I can expand on it GREATLY... this
> could well be only the tip of the iceberg.
>
> I say, save the source if you have the space on your servers. Why?
> Think about in the future creating "blip projects".... think flickr
> groups... but it's not about simply sharing... they're PROJECT
> groups... they're about collaborative editing and organizing... either
> rough cut editing online (with original source videos!)... using
> blip's future online editing tools... or by downloading clips, editing
> and reuploading to the blip projects.
>
> Maybe... you just want to embrace the remix...
>
> Or maybe you steal apple's "rip, mix burn" slogan.
>
> And you adopt a strategy, of "Shoot,  upload, mix, publish!"
>
> "Blip Projects" would be descrete groups... like a pbwiki... or say
> this yahoo group... that can be public or private... or many stages
> inbetween.
>
> They could be used to collaborate... say... a "vloggercon project" for
> vloggers to upload raw footage to share publicly, organize and
> collaboratively edit.
>
> ....or what about offering some white label version of this to podtech
> or rocketboom and others with "correspondents in the field".    They
> got the correspondents go out in the field... covering CES, and
> macworld and they're to damn busy in the field to do any editing...
> they're not sleeping... they may be in bed... with each other even...
> but they're not sleeping... because it's CES...  so they upload the
> footage to their "Podtech CES Project on blip.tv" so the podtech
> editors who are well rested can organize, grab source and edit
> together shows.
>
> But that's not it... no. not by a long shot... because... what if you
> were in a war zone and wanted to vlog... and you had limited
> resources, editing time, software, tech, and broadband.... say you had
> a blog and it was called Alive in Bagdad and you needed some
> collaborative space to upload and share raw footage with your
> co-conspirators state-side with their fancy macbooks, and their
> broadband and editing software..
>
> But wait that's not it!?   What if you were in the bush in africa...
> like literally in the bush... shooting all this amazing footage of
> wild dogs, and elephents and lions and rhinos!? Oh... wait, that's
> wildcast.net!
>
> It's not like you'd have a broadband connection in the bush, nor a
> mobile editing station... maybe you'd upload some raw clips via sat
> phone and blips intro & outro tool would be GREAT for that!  Slapping
> an intro... a title sequence and an outro on it, transocding it to
> flash an mp4 and posting it all to your vlog... at wildcast.net
>
> But also may you could also upload some raw footage, some audio clips,
> some voice over material and what not to "Project Wildcast on blip.tv"
> and your conspirators in London could mix together some superb shows.
>
> But wait... maybe you're on the road... maybe you're covering a
> presidential campaign with three other people...  maybe that of John
> Edwards?   You're not all on the road at the same time.... but you
> need to be able to collaborate with your compadres to share the
> load... maybe you need some place to upload raw footage for your
> conspirators to edit and post?
>
>
> And let's not forget the original idea either... the idea of just
> having simple intro's and outros.
>
> Maybe you've got a video cameraphone... maybe it's a Nokia n70, or a
> N93 or N95 and let's say you shoot some footage of someone getting
> tazered in a library in california... or maybe you're on vacation and
> a tsunami hits... I don't know... use your imagination...
>
> The point is you can just hit the old share this video button on your
> phone... and you send your footage off to blip... you key in a
> title... "i just saw something that might change the world"... and 30
> minutes or an hour later there it is, a post on your vlog... titled...
> "this might change the world" and there's your clip... not in 3gp
> format as you shot it, but in a very shareable and viewable flash...
> and a nice mp4...
>
> So what if maybe this ONE video clip of some kid getting tazzered at a
> library might not actually change the world... yeah, probably not, but
> maybe... just maybe the aggregate... of thousands and thousands of
> people just like you... doing the same thing... civil servents of the
> camera... doing their civic duty... shining camera's into all the dark
> but also quite often wonderful corners of the world... and sharing
> those videos with the click of a button... not in realtime but web
> time... that sort of ubiquity, that instant access, press button
> simplicity to shoot and share something with potentially the entire
> world... maybe the aggregate of thousand and thousands of people
> will.. maybe, one day change the world... maybe like an idea that's
> time has come... in some sense it already has.
>
>
> That or maybe you're just some guy who has a sub $100 digital camera
> that takes some nice 320x240 video in AVI format... eww... and doesn't
> like nor care about editing.
>
> Maybe you just want to shoot random clips of things like cats... or
> dogs chasing their tails... or sunsets or clouds or hot air
> balloons...  and press the send button.
>
> Maybe you don't want to have to transcode them to MP4... and add a
> title sequence... or throw your creative commons licensce on the
> outro.  Maybe you just want to point and shoot, upload it and "forget
> about it"...  and just now that it'll be on your vlog in a nice easy
> and viewable flash and mp4 format... and what is so wrong about that?
>
> Making vlogging more accessible to more people... more people... less
> boundries... less necissary technology... more simplicity.
>
> Maybe video blogging won't ever be free to really be art until it is
> as simple and free as a number two pencil... and when video is as
> cheap as words... maybe only then it'll be then be free like those
> words that we throw around so cheaply... to become the texts, the
> novels, the books and words that inspire a revolution... or pacify a
> nation... or once again... change the world.
>
> Maybe there's a direct inverse relation... between the cheapness and
> accessibility of a thing... the number of people whom have access to
> it... and it possibilities to be a medium of greatness.
>
>
> Heh... and btw Jackob of vimeo made the mistake of posting both their
> business plan and what a video goes through after youupload it to
> vimeo to flickr.  Direct from the whitey boards in the heart of the
> college humor labs.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakob/352221793/
>
> You should totally "steal" that... especially the "biz plan". They nailed
> it!
>
> It's briliant!
>
> LOL
>
> Keep rocking blippers!
>
> And keep rocking vimeo'ers too!
>
> -Mike, he of many cheap words.
> mefeedia.com
> mmeiser.com
> evilvlog.com
> intermediated.com
>
> On 1/10/07, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, users control with sensible defaults sounds right. How about
> something
> > like this:
> >
> > By default, the original file gets the prepend and append, and the flash
> > file too, and those are the versions you make publicly available. Include
> an
> > option to prepend-append to existing videos I uploaded earlier.
> >
> > The original file stays available too (at .../original/...), and make that
> > available to the content creator, but not to the public, *unless* the
> > content creator checks the "for appended videos, make unappended
> unchanched
> > version available to public" checkbox.
> >
> > At any time, the content creator can switch prerolls/postrolls and re-do
> the
> > append operations for 1 video or all videos. This way I can change my
> intro
> > and attach it to all future videos, or to *all* videos.
> >
> > That'd be my personal preference.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/10/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >   Interesting,
> > >
> > > So long as its always under the full control of the creator, Im not
> > > sure people will even think of it as an altered video modified by you.
> > > Indeed if people use the features to put titles, credits, license
> > > info, or adverts into their video, they might not want the 'original
> > > unaltered' video to be available at all?
> > >
> > > For me, if its under the users control, its more like a simple form of
> > > 'online video editing' that you are offering, will be fascinating to
> > > see what others think.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Steve Elbows
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Mike Hudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Soon, soon, and my apologies for the sneak peak there :) We've still
> > > > got some more testing and debugging to do before we can really release
> > > > it to the public.
> > > >
> > > > Let me ask everyone a question about how we implement this feature,
> > > > actually. In order to do this right we have to create copies of your
> > > > original uploaded files which include your custom intros and outros.
> > > > This means that we would no longer be displaying your original,
> > > > unaltered, unchanged video file to the public. We would instead be
> > > > displaying a version of your video file which includes our own
> > > > modifications.
> > > >
> > > > How do we do this correctly, without upsetting people? One primary
> goal
> > > > of ours is to always, always, always make your original video file
> > > > available somewhere. It's very important to us. But how do that in a
> > > > user-friendly way, and do we make it available in cross-posts? Do we
> > > > only make the modified file available in cross-posts? How about
> > > > cross-uploads to Archive.org?
> > > >
> > > > Yours,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >
> > [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > On Behalf Of Peter Van Dijck
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:51 PM
> > > > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros & Outros
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been WAITING for that forever, please make it live as
> > > > > soon as you can
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a
> > > > > > public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From:
> > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > >
> > [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Bill Cammack
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM
> > > > > > > To:
> videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros & Outros
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Blip's done it again! :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <blockquote>You can now use blip.tv to automatically
> > > > > insert intros
> > > > > > > and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and
> > > > > outros for
> > > > > > > your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll
> advertising
> > > > > > > that you sell yourself.</blockquote>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Bill C.
> > > > > > > http://ReelSolid.TV
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