I'd like to add one very simple thing. This group is whatever its members make it. While there are list administrators, they're extremely hands-off (as I believe they should be) and it's largely been left to the approximately 2,500 people on this list to manage themselves and direct the conversation wherever they care to. If you'd like to see more discussion of content or technique it is entirely within your power to provoke that discussion.
> -----Original Message----- > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:02 AM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver > > Well I agree that it seems wrong to criticise a company for > sending out email - otherwise they are damned if they do and > damned if they dont, previous complaints were about them not > talking to people! > > How the email is written, the tone etc, is how Id see it, > rather than whether sending email is wrong per se. > > AS for the negativity of the group etc, welcome to the > internet! Im certainly very guilty of mostly talking > negatively, usually because if something is OK, I dont > usually feel the need to comment on it. > Thats no justification, just an explanation. > > Since the early days of the group, many have wished for more > discusion of content, etc. A seperate group was even setup > for this, but all the offshoot groups have failed to maintain > much discusion at all. > > The reasons are probably varied - sometimes its easier to > make content than to talk about it (not for me though lol), > people let the content speak for itself. > > The whole negativity thing is also seen a lot with comments > on people blogs, videos, etc. It seems that getting annoyed > or disproving of something can be a greater source of > motivation for people to share their thoughts, than positive > stuff. A shame, not 100% true, dunno how to change it. > > Even if we did talk about content more, it can get even more > sensitive. A lot of opeople opinions on content also boils > down to 'I think this is crap', and as people are > understandably a bit sensitive about their work, it can cause > even more bad vibes. > > Can you point me to some forums, messageboards, groups or > other stuff that is a shining example of a more balanced, > less moany bitchy balance of things? Because its > unfortunately my experience that this isnt something unique > to this group. Indeed the phenomenon of negative text > communication on the net is one of the many reasons some > people were attracted to video in the first place! > > Youve done nothing wrong and noboy is going to unsubscribe > you. You can of course unsubscribe yourself if you cant stand > to be here. The middle way is to set the yahoo options so > that you dont get emails, but rather you can read just the > stuff you choose by looking at this group throught he yahoo > web interface, where you can also view messages grouped by > subject, thus making it very easy to avoid whole threads of > coversation that dont appeal. > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Collins" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Network2 should STOP emailing people! It's the prefered method > of > > > spammers... I think it's definitely one of the things that > immediately > > > sets people off.... maybe not as much with this promotion... but > > > making a first introduction and request... of course that puts > people > > > off... it's the same way all fishing scams work. > > > > > > So network2 has to establish more trust... > > > > > > and secondly... jeff pulver hasn't been that active here... and > he's > > > making big heavy handed moves... > > > > > > > > > First off I was the person who reposted Jeff's email here. It came > into > > my inbox that morning and I thought it would be of interest to > people > > in this group seeing I dont currently video blog. > > > > Secondly wow, I've never seen a bunch of crying babies more than > I've > > seen in the past 24 hours. > > > > You guys even beat the MythTV open source software group. > > > > As for email being the "method" of spammers, pull your head out of > your > > butt. It's the way people communicate. If you dont like it dont > read it > > or better still unsubscribe me. > > > > For someone that has just 'wandered' in off the street lately into > this > > group I've seen nothing but moaning and groaning and bitching. > > > > I thought I'd find tips and techniques, discussions about topics, > > reviews on thought provoking vlogs. > > > > Sorry if this sounds out of line but wheres the content??? > > > > > > Dissapointedly, > > > > Dean > > P.S. Everything I say is my own personal opinion and I'm not > connected > > with F2/Pulver etc if you dont like what I've got to say > unsubscribe > > me, it's not like I'd be missing any content anyway. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
