mefeedia? ;) On 2/26/07, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But that's the clever thing. > > it wouldn't be centralized. > > The big blogging sites are not a centralized community they pull > everyone to them. The contributors run their own blogs. > > I understand that this list is not the 'videoblogging community', but > this list is a driving factor in the development of videoblogging. > Many of the people here are leaders in the industry. > > I just found it interesting the juxtaposition between 'transferring > this communities values' to the you tubers and general public when > 'this community' is doing the same thing here on this list; getting > an inferior product and making some company money because it is 'easy'. > > All I know is that Daily Kos and Scoop serve hundreds of thousands of > users and had a major impact on our political landscape over the last > couple of years. > > The people on this list are capable of building a similar 'gate > crashing' community that can challenge the corporate media and that > needs to be done. This list ain't gonna do that. > > So I'll just stop talking now, and if I can keep my mouth shut, in a > couple days this topic will be gone. > > Cheers, > Ron Watson > > On the Web: > http://pawsitivevybe.com > http://k9disc.com > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > On Feb 26, 2007, at 2:36 PM, sull wrote: > > > use gmail for mailing lists to get threading and search out of the > > experience. > > > > blogs and lists work well enough. > > whenever someone tries to centralize the so-called community, it > > doesnt work > > out. > > there are more than just one reason for this. > > also, this list isnt "the community". it just so happens to contain > > a small > > group of active users who give a sense of community on and offline. > > > > sull > > > > On 2/26/07, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <k9disc%40mac.com>> wrote: > > > > > > Threaded comments would be nice. A decent search function would > > be as > > > well. > > > > > > Community. > > > Permanence. > > > Activism. > > > Organization. > > > Education. > > > Entertainment. > > > > > > Does any of that really happen on the list? > > > > > > And we can't even send embedded images, let alone embed video. > > > > > > I know that people have started wikis and other CMS apps, but these > > > require a bit of knowledge and experience, or people have to learn > > > something new. > > > > > > When I think of the hundreds of conversations that I would like to > > > recall and/or research, hundreds of valuable threads and ideas, I > > > have no idea where to begin with these groups. > > > > > > The feature set of scoop is what I think we need, and where I think > > > we should move, especially if we are going have an impact and > > > transfer this groups values to people. > > > > > > I love blip, but I'm just thinking of an independent place for > > > videobloggers to congregate and share information. Something that > > we, > > > not Yahoo, create and maintain. If we want an additional feature we > > > install it. If we have a problem we resolve it. > > > > > > Ron Watson > > > > > > On the Web: > > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > http://k9disc.com > > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:46 > > AM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] <sdickert%40rawlingsatlantic.com><sdickert% > > > 40rawlingsatlantic.com>wrote: > > > > > > > Okay - if off Yahoo is what you desire - what are the feat you > > want? > > > > > > > > Ability to email each other on a mailing list? > > > > Community/moblogging? > > > > Threaded comments? > > > > Personal diaries? > > > > Forums with threads? > > > > > > > > What are the features you desire? What is the problem you want to > > > > solve? > > > > > > > > I think of what blip.tv offers and what blubrry.com offers. > > What do > > > > you specifically want? > > > > --- > > > > Sanford Dickert > > > > Rawlings Atlantic Inc > > > > (954) 323 4450 > > > > > > > > Sent from my treo 650 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <k9disc%40mac.com><k9disc%40mac.com>> > > > > Subj: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging about Vlogging - Vlogging > > > > about Life > > > > Date: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:03 pm > > > > Size: 2K > > > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging% > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > What are the Yahoo groups core values and how do we transmit > > them to > > > > > > the newbies and other folks stepping up to the camcorder? > > > > > > > > While I love this group and find the information to be totally > > > > priceless, I find this juxtaposition that Steve puts up here to be > > > > quite interesting. > > > > > > > > We're doing all of our serious business at the Wal-Mart of the > > net, a > > > > Yahoo Group. > > > > > > > > It's pretty ironic, really. > > > > > > > > All the reliance that we have on the Open Source Community, all > > the > > > > talk of grassroots and content creator control, and here we are > > > > spending hours and hours on a Yahoo List. > > > > > > > > Talk about flushing stuff down the memory hole. > > > > > > > > These lists were not meant to be communities. > > > > > > > > They are dysfunctional on their face, and are really only suitable > > > > for announcements and such. > > > > > > > > What this Yahoo Group needs is a Scoop site. > > > > > > > > This Yahoo group should build the dailyKos of Videoblogging. > > > > > > > > That's what we need to do, and that's how we're going to be > > able to > > > > compete with all of the MyHeavy's that are going to be coming > > at us. > > > > > > > > We need a megaphone, and all we got here is a mailing list; we > > can't > > > > even embed images! > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'd be happy to pitch in wholeheartedly, although I don't > > > > have the DB/MYSQL knowledge to get Scoop configured, I'm sure I > > could > > > > help dial her in. > > > > > > > > I don't think any of the other CMS setups are as community > > organized > > > > as scoop, and don't think they would be as effective as scoop > > for a > > > > couple thousand users. > > > > > > > > Check out: > > > > http://boomantribune.com > > > > http://dailykos.com > > > > > > > > If you haven't seen a scoop site. > > > > > > > > Anyway, just shooting my mouth off again, but I think the > > disconnect > > > > I felt at Steve's quoted comment is something that we must deal > > with > > > > if we are to mold any sort of values for newbies and the public in > > > > general. > > > > > > > > I think the way to do that is to get our attention off this > > list and > > > > on building something. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Ron Watson > > > > > > > > On the Web: > > > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > > http://k9disc.com > > > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: > > > > > > > > > At the public access station where I taught video blogging for a > > > > > number of sessions, they've done away with the stand alone video > > > > > blogging class and now have an 'Adding Multimedia to Your Web > > Page' > > > > > class because people want to know how to put pictures, audio and > > > > > video on the web to share... > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cctvcambridge.org/?q=node/94#html > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Gena wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > There are other folks "teaching" vlogging such as Videomaker > > > > > magazine > > > > > > who calls it "Vodcasting" They started a series of > > articles, have > > > > > some > > > > > > training videos and they are putting they thoughts and > > > > > interpretations > > > > > > on how to do it for their readers. Different views, different > > > > > agendas. > > > > > > > > --- message truncated --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sull > > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
-- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
