i have sat in many editorial news meetings deciding what is going to go into a story.
NBC did its job in showing parts of the video on the news. it's not the reporters job to decide what's tasteful or proper it's not their job to protect the public or the victims from anything their only job is to tell the story as accurately and truthfully as possible NBC was in its right to do this just as the families of the victims are right to say how much they hate NBC for doing it and for refusing to go on tv in protest. On 4/19/07, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I must have missed the conversation on the solutions.. ;-) > > I think that it has to be more than just "citizen media" making the > changes though. For one because you will have a segment of the > population who does not trust "real" news people. I know most on > this list would find that hard to believe but it is true. But I do > agree the best thing we can do to "force" change is to call out > things like this. To not watch the programs and to stand up. Which > I know most if not all on this list do.....we just have to get the > rest of the world to change as well.... ;-) > > > Heath > http://batmangeek.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No, I'm sure no one thinks you do agree with what they've done, > > Heath. Totally understand your questioning, and you're right to. > > You said first of all, though, that you didn't think we provided > > solutions, we just complained about how bad MSM was - and I don't > > think that's right - I think we talk about the solutions non- > stop. > > And, my own opinion, there are no solutions to it in the pre- > internet > > market. The solution *is* the internet and on-demand media. > > > > But now I'm repeating myself for like the twelfth time, so I'll > shut up. > > > > On 19 Apr 2007, at 23:34, Heath wrote: > > > > For the record I don't agree with what the MSM has done and in > > paticular in deceiding to air the video....I was merely wanting to > > know "how" we can change things and how "we" can make a differance. > > > > To be able to discuss things we have to look at multiples angles, > > talk through situtions.....I think those things are important, it's > > the only way to counter ignorance, IMO... > > > > Heath > > http://batmangeek.com > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "missbhavens1969" > > <missbhavens1969@> wrote: > > > > > > Absolutely positively no fucking way would I air those videos. > There > > > was no reason -- NONE -- none other than ratings and the thrill > of > > > exclusivity for NBC to do so. Watching them gains us nothing. > There > > is > > > nothing useful in them. The shooter is dead, and really, what > else > > do > > > we need to know? It's beyond obvious he was mentally ill, do we > need > > > to see video proof, too? Oh, wait. Yes we do. Because the > American > > > television audience is as voyeuristic as they come. Forget that > NBC > > > has played into the shooters hands. This is exactly what he > wanted, > > > and he got it. He didn't mail the box to police, he mailed it to > a > > > television station. Now every angry, dejected, hateful, sullen > kid > > who > > > dreams of blowing away the school gets to see it, too. He wanted > to > > be > > > a martyr and to a small dangerous set, he is. > > > > > > Those tapes should have been held for a certain period of time, > so > > > that authorities (whoever they are) could glean from them > whatever > > > they needed, and then available to anyone closely related to the > > > tragedy should they wish to see them. Families, friends, > counselors. > > > > > > It wasn't wrong for NBC to edit those videos, it was wrong of > them > > to > > > air to air them and to air them so quickly. > > > > > > It speaks volumes that families booked on The Today Show have > > > cancelled their appearances because of the handling of the video. > > Now > > > NBC has backpedaled and say they're going to be more careful > about > > the > > > remaining footage that they show. Too little too late. > > > > > > I'm disgusted by what NBC has done, and I find the idea > that "well, > > of > > > course NBC had to air the videos" repellent. > > > > > > Bekah > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Heath" <heathparks@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Maybe I missed it but I still have not seem anyone say how they > > would > > > > have covered it. I only see and hear people saying how the MSM > > is > > > > covering it is wrong. So I ask out to the group, you are the > > news > > > > director you have the ablilty to shape how this story is told, > > how do > > > > you do that? > > > > > > > > I am not trying to defend MSM, what I am asking is "how" we do > it > > > > differently, how do you balance it. Or any story for that > > matter. > > > > > > > > you mentioned my comment on the right to know vs privacy, I was > > > > speaking in general terms and not to this paticular incident. I > > have > > > > no idea how I would feel, maybe I would want to tell people > about > > my > > > > son or daughter, maybe I would retreat into myself, I simply do > > not > > > > know. > > > > > > > > Heath > > > > http://batmangeek.com > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > Rupert <rupert@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Heath, > > > > > I guess my last post covered some of what you're asking here, > > but > > > > I'm > > > > > going to reply anyway. > > > > > > > > > > "And as far as the mainstream media's coverage, what should > > they do? > > > > > How should they cover it?" > > > > > You're right - at the moment, this is the only way they can > > > > satisfy > > > > > their shareholders and funders. It's their way of attracting > > the > > > > > largest number of people. How they *should* cover it, if you > > were > > > > to > > > > > prioritize humanity, morals, intelligence and making the > world > > a > > > > > better place, is a different matter. > > > > > > > > > > "It's always a fine line between the right to know and > privacy." > > > > > In reference to this particular case, I really think you'd > have > > a > > > > > hard time delivering this line to a victim of this massacre, > or > > of > > > > > any copycat massacre. > > > > > > > > > > "I hear a lot of people on this list bash the MSM but I see > > very > > > > few > > > > > answers or way to "solve" the issues that they see. How can > we > > > > expect > > > > > anything better if we can't, won't or don't know a better > way?" > > > > > That's *all* we talk about, even obliquely, I reckon. The > > > > technology > > > > > we're pioneering here *is* the solution. We *are* the better > > > > way. > > > > > As I said in my last post, I think things will change as a > > result > > > > of > > > > > the economic threat to MSM bullshit that's presented by the > > > > internet > > > > > and on-demand media easily accessed from the couch & TV. When > > > > > there's no limit on channels and *everyone* can compete, the > > media > > > > > will want to reach out to a whole bunch of niche audiences > that > > > > they > > > > > couldn't afford to bother with before. > > > > > > > > > > "And who says what is better or not better? We all come from > > > > > different backgrounds, belief's, etc. It's a balancing act, > > always > > > > > has been." > > > > > Deep down, we all know what's better. We know when we're > > buying > > > > into > > > > > prurient not-public-interest press crap and watching/reading > > what > > > > > they want us to watch because it's too hard to do anything > > else. > > > > > When we consume our media differently, when there's no limits > > on > > > > > distribution and so no limit to choice of product, we'll > choose > > a > > > > lot > > > > > more of the Good stuff, instead of the stuff that's only > there > > > > > because of the imperative to maximize the shareholders' ROI. > > > > > > > > > > Rupert > > > > > http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ > > > > > http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ > > > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:59, Heath wrote: > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
