Work-around #4

1) Export for AppleTV
2) Export for iPod
3) Two different feeds

Bill C.
http://BillCammack.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "wazman_au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Stupid bloody Apple, why do they DO things like this????
> 
> Folks, this is a tough one, and yes, I've read through the
Casey-initiated thread. Good start 
> but sadly optimistic.
> 
> The question is, how do we pump out vids that are 640x480 and have
the "baseline low-
> complexity" profile, thus being both iPod and (presumably) Apple TV
compatible?
> 
> Baseline can be selected when exporting with your own settings, but
the "low-complexity" 
> sub-option cannot. According to Apple's developer spec,
low-complexity has been defined 
> by Apple for the iPod, and it seems to be restricted to the Export
for iPod option, which 
> cannot be configured.
> 
> When exporting an iPod video, QuickTime chooses automatically
whether to use "baseline" 
> or "baseline low-complexity" - in a nutshell, anything upwards of
320x240 gets low-
> complexity. Gory details here:
> 
> http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2007/tn2188.html
> 
> Three possible workarounds. I am not in front of QTPro right now so
will try later:
> 
> 1) Use the Export for iPod option with the source vid sized at
640x480 - this will goad 
> QTPro into using low-complexity - and then find some way of saving
the resulting video 
> _again_ with a chopped-down bitrate, perhaps by doing a "Save as
..." but without re-
> encoding. 
> 
> 2) Do it the other way round - export at the bitrate etc. that you
want, then run it through 
> the iPod export. The developer spec suggests QT iPod exporter using
a 640x480 source 
> file will pick its own bitrate according to a complex formula ("DR =
{ (nMC * 8 ) / 3 } - 100" 
> I kid you not, check out the developer link above) between 700 and
1500kbps. But maybe 
> if the source file is already lower, it won't jump up the bitrate
too shockingly. The MC in 
> the equation stands for "macroblock" and if the number of these can
be reduced in the 
> source file (how? Dunno) then, doing the maths, you are headed for a
smaller result.
> 
> 3) Resize your source video to 640x480, whack it through Export for
iPod and hope the 
> filesize is not too bloated. As in the formula above, this should
produce something 
> between 700kbps and 1500kbps, although Apple doesn't say whether the
audio is 
> included in that bitrate (AAARGH!).   
> 
> I found to my horror this afternoon that my carefully crafted
640x480 recipe with 
> meticulously pared down video and sound bitrates that delivered a
file of 5MB/minute that 
> looks alright on the telly via laptop S-Video cable doesn't work on
the iPod.
> 
> I am just about ready to tell Apple where to shove their TV box ...
and all of the above still 
> leaves the question unanswered: will the aforementioned oblong
suppository PLAY H.264 
> BASELINE LOW-COMPLEXITY???
> 
> Anyone got one of these boxes?
> 
> That's all for now. I know none of the above is tested but I thought
I'd post now while my 
> blood is up, and to give others the chance to look for a solution.
> 
> Waz from Crash Test Kitchen
> http://www.crashtestkitchen.com
>


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