OK Im concluding that all video ipods should be able to be updated to run the same spec files as the current 5.5G ipod.
And I looked into the bitrate thing a bit more and I dont think there's anything wrong with your bitrate. The slightly larger bitrate being stated is because that includes the audio, this is totally normal. When I export your video from quicktime but select 'pass-though', it tells me the bitrate for the video is 678kbps, which is lower than the max ipod 768kbps spec for that sort of file. So just to re-iterate, the stated 768kbps ipod bitrate limit for 320x240 baseline h264, is just for the video part, doesnt include audio, so its normal that your video & audio combined can exceed that bitrate. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Strange, I thought I bought an ipod as soon as they could do video, > yet mine is updated and can play the 640x480 stuff. > > What version of software does itunes say is on your ipod? Mine is 1.2.1 > > Meanwhile Im not exactly sure about this bitrate thing. To be honest > theres usually a bit of flexibility with bitrates, not least because > the numbers we usually take about are the average bitrate, it often > varies quite a bit throughout the file. Quicktime may report one > bitrate for the file, but expensive mp4 analysis software can show how > the bitrate changes over the length of the video. > > I'll see what I can find about ipod or itunes bitrate limits. > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "J. Rhett Aultman" <wlight@> > wrote: > > > > Well, I'm not using 640x480 videos. I generally render my NTSC avi > into a > > 320x240 MOV file first, then transcode the 320x240 MOV into a > 320x240 FLV > > and a 320x240 M4V. Since I'm not allowed to manually set options when I > > use the "movie to iPod" export in QT, that would basically mean that > QT is > > intentionally choosing a bitrate that's too high for some iPod > > generations, no? > > > > -- > > Rhett. > > http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime > > http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime > > > > > FYI, 640x480 videos do not play on my video iPod. I think maybe it's a > > > generational thing with the iPod. I have the latest version of iTunes. > > > When I plug my iPod in and check for updates, I get the message that > > > my iPod is up to date - so I am not being offered the opportunity to > > > update the firmware (maybe I was in the past - if it says I need an > > > update, I update). Nevertheless, the 640x480 videos will not transfer > > > onto the iPod even though they play fine in iTunes. Your users may be > > > in the same boat with me. I believe I bought my iPod last February, so > > > that's approximately 15 months ago. I think a new generation of video > > > iPod came out after that - I don't remember - if it did then it's > > > possibly an iPod generation thing. When I have time, which will be in > > > about 2 weeks, I intend to take the iPod over to my local Apple store > > > and ask about this problem. If I learn anything useful I'll post > it here. > > > > > > Cheryl Colan > > > I vlog: hummingcrow.com > > > I make: whatwefound.blogspot.com > > > I teach: node101phoenix.org > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "J. Rhett Aultman" <wlight@> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Thanks for a little sanity checking, Steve. I really will need to > > > follow > > >> up with the user in specific and see what's going on, because > we've been > > >> pretty sure that, at least for the recent episodes, things were fine. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Rhett. > > >> http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime > > >> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime > > >> > > >> > That is indeed horribly confusing because m4v's created by > quicktime > > >> > ipod export option should always play. I just tried episode 6 on my > > >> > ipod and it transferred and played fine. > > >> > > > >> > So I dunno, got any detail on what the people with a problem are > > >> > experiencing? Plays o in itunes but wont transfer to ipod? > > >> > > > >> > Strange! > > >> > > > >> > Cheers > > >> > > > >> > Steve Elbows > > >> > > > >> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "J. Rhett Aultman" <wlight@> > > >> > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Gang, > > >> >> > > >> >> I've had some complaints from my viewers that the .m4v files we > > > generate > > >> >> for distribution on iTunes are not compatible with video iPods. > > > We're > > >> >> finding this horribly confusing because we generate them with > > > Quicktime > > >> >> using the "Movie to iPod" exporter. > > >> >> > > >> >> Could I trouble someone to pull up > > >> >> > http://greentime.blip.tv/?file_type=mov,mpeg4,mp4,m4v,mp3&skin=rss in > > >> >> iTunes, look at Greentime Episode #6 or #5 and see what might be > > > wrong? > > >> >> We can't find anything wrong at all, but we also don't have an > iPod > > >> > to try > > >> >> it on. > > >> >> > > >> >> We'd be most grateful. > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Rhett. > > >> >> http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime > > >> >> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yahoo! 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