OK Im concluding that all video ipods should be able to be updated to
run the same spec files as the current 5.5G ipod.

And I looked into the bitrate thing a bit more and I dont think
there's anything wrong with your bitrate. The slightly larger bitrate
being stated is because that includes the audio, this is totally
normal. When I export your video from quicktime but select
'pass-though', it tells me the bitrate for the video is 678kbps, which
is lower than the max ipod 768kbps spec for that sort of file.

So just to re-iterate, the stated 768kbps ipod bitrate limit for
320x240 baseline h264, is just for the video part, doesnt include
audio, so its normal that your video & audio combined can exceed that
bitrate.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Strange, I thought I bought an ipod as soon as they could do video,
> yet mine is updated and can play the 640x480 stuff.
> 
> What version of software does itunes say is on your ipod? Mine is 1.2.1
> 
> Meanwhile Im not exactly sure about this bitrate thing. To be honest
> theres usually a bit of flexibility with bitrates, not least because
> the numbers we usually take about are the average bitrate, it often
> varies quite a bit throughout the file. Quicktime may report one
> bitrate for the file, but expensive mp4 analysis software can show how
> the bitrate changes over the length of the video. 
> 
> I'll see what I can find about ipod or itunes bitrate limits.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "J. Rhett Aultman" <wlight@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm not using 640x480 videos.  I generally render my NTSC avi
> into a
> > 320x240 MOV file first, then transcode the 320x240 MOV into a
> 320x240 FLV
> > and a 320x240 M4V.  Since I'm not allowed to manually set options
when I
> > use the "movie to iPod" export in QT, that would basically mean that
> QT is
> > intentionally choosing a bitrate that's too high for some iPod
> > generations, no?
> > 
> > --
> > Rhett.
> > http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
> > http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
> > 
> > > FYI, 640x480 videos do not play on my video iPod. I think maybe
it's a
> > > generational thing with the iPod. I have the latest version of
iTunes.
> > > When I plug my iPod in and check for updates, I get the message that
> > > my iPod is up to date - so I am not being offered the opportunity to
> > > update the firmware (maybe I was in the past - if it says I need an
> > > update, I update). Nevertheless, the 640x480 videos will not
transfer
> > > onto the iPod even though they play fine in iTunes. Your users
may be
> > > in the same boat with me. I believe I bought my iPod last
February, so
> > > that's approximately 15 months ago. I think a new generation of
video
> > > iPod came out after that - I don't remember - if it did then it's
> > > possibly an iPod generation thing. When I have time, which will
be in
> > > about 2 weeks, I intend to take the iPod over to my local Apple
store
> > > and ask about this problem. If I learn anything useful I'll post
> it here.
> > >
> > > Cheryl Colan
> > > I vlog: hummingcrow.com
> > > I make: whatwefound.blogspot.com
> > > I teach: node101phoenix.org
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "J. Rhett Aultman" <wlight@>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for a little sanity checking, Steve.  I really will need to
> > > follow
> > >> up with the user in specific and see what's going on, because
> we've been
> > >> pretty sure that, at least for the recent episodes, things were
fine.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Rhett.
> > >> http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
> > >> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
> > >>
> > >> > That is indeed horribly confusing because m4v's created by
> quicktime
> > >> > ipod export option should always play. I just tried episode 6
on my
> > >> > ipod and it transferred and played fine.
> > >> >
> > >> > So I dunno, got any detail on what the people with a problem are
> > >> > experiencing? Plays o in itunes but wont transfer to ipod?
> > >> >
> > >> > Strange!
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers
> > >> >
> > >> > Steve Elbows
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "J. Rhett Aultman"
<wlight@>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Gang,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I've had some complaints from my viewers that the .m4v files we
> > > generate
> > >> >> for distribution on iTunes are not compatible with video iPods.
> > > We're
> > >> >> finding this horribly confusing because we generate them with
> > > Quicktime
> > >> >> using the "Movie to iPod" exporter.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Could I trouble someone to pull up
> > >> >>
> http://greentime.blip.tv/?file_type=mov,mpeg4,mp4,m4v,mp3&skin=rss in
> > >> >> iTunes, look at Greentime Episode #6 or #5 and see what might be
> > > wrong?
> > >> >> We can't find anything wrong at all, but we also don't have an
> iPod
> > >> > to try
> > >> >> it on.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> We'd be most grateful.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Rhett.
> > >> >> http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
> > >> >> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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