In a live perfomance, the venue pays for the privilege of allowing the musician to perform copyrighted material via ASCAP and BMI 'membership'. If a recording is made, the musician pays for the privilege of distributing the copyrighted material. Some friends of mine in a band who released a live recording are continuously grumbling about the royalties on the 'covers' they played in that show.
Adam Jochum cafn8ed.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "missbhavens1969" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I was under the impression that musicians/bands covering a tune > for a recording would certainly need permission on the assumption that > money would be made from the sale of the album. > > But every band in every live concert I've ever seen has done at least > one cover (always my favorite part of a show...you can't judge a book by > it's cover but you CAN judge a band by it's covers) and I can't imagine > they sought permission first. > > Oh well. There must be some sort of "if you're already famous you can do > a cover of my famous song" clause. > > In the meanwhile, I'm going to brush up on my piano skills. I've always > wanted to use "Song for a Future Generation" by the B-52s. Perhaps I'll > cover that. > > bekah > > ps: David, my fiancee informs me that we no longer say "bastard > red-headed step children". The more accepted term is "Gingers". > > ; ) > -- > http://www.missbhavens.com > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <taoofdavid@> > wrote: > > > > Interesting. > > > > So, all musicians or bands covering a tune must get permission first > > or pay fees? Does that include if they cover a song in an encore or > > something too? > > > > Adam's music might have to become my bastard red-haired step children > > then. > > > > David > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" > > solitude@ wrote: > > > > > > Beware though that the US court system do not agree with the dog > > essay. > > > Adam did not write most of those songs and thus you will also need > to > > > secure permission from the composer (or pay ASCAP fees or whatever > the > > > procedure is for the kind of work you want to make). > > > > > > Longer reply coming in a day or two when I've had time & energy to > > wade > > > through the rhetoric analogies in that essay. > > > > > > - Andreas > > > > > > Den 02.07.2007 kl. 20:49 skrev David Howell taoofdavid@: > > > > > > > Excellent. Much appreciated. > > > > > > > > I'll care for them and treat them as though they were made of the > > > > finest crystal. Maybe, on a hot summer evening, I might just call > one > > > > of them Fred. > > > > > > > > David > > > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Quirk, Wreck & > Salvage" > > > > <quirk@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Free as in liberty and the natural state of man, not price. They > > > > actually > > > >> cost $4.30 each. > > > >> > > > >> Them's just jokes. Use em as you see fit. I'd be honored to hear > > them in > > > >> your video, and those songs aren't mine to sell. > > > >> > > > >> On 7/2/07, David Howell <taoofdavid@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > When you say "free lo-fi music by me", is that free as in I can > use > > > >> > your music without remuneration to you? > > > >> > > > > >> > Not trying to sound like a prick. I like your tunes and could > > find use > > > >> > for them in a few videos I have planned. > > > >> > > > > >> > David > > > >> > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > >> > > > > >> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Quirk, Wreck & > Salvage" > > > >> > <quirk@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Back in town, re-reading the Podtech v. Bui thread. I just > > want to > > > >> > talk a > > > >> > > little more about copyright and the "ownership" of art, as I > felt > > > >> > compelled > > > >> > > to scratch Mr. Rice's mosquito bite about being "trollish" ;) > I > > > >> > don't mean > > > >> > > to start an argument here, I just need to understand how > > people feel > > > >> > about > > > >> > > the things they are making, and I want you all to understand > how > > > > I feel. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > A friend of mine wrote an essay on music a couple years ago > > > > called The > > > >> > > History of What My Dog Can't Hear: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > http://www.geartekcorporation.com/texts/essay2.html > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The essay is about changing the way we perceive music, and > > accepting > > > >> > it as > > > >> > > something that is not ownable: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The ownership or authorship of anything is a deception, > > surely. But > > > >> > I take > > > >> > > > no issue with the ownership of objects in the world, like a > > broom > > > >> > or a drum > > > >> > > > for example. Music however, is a thing not in the world, > > and the > > > >> > present > > > >> > > > deception of its ownability places limits on our > > consciousness. My > > > >> > > > motivation here is not to sell iPods. If this near biblical > > > >> > manifesto-mill > > > >> > > > can be accused of having any agenda at all, it is merely to > > > > assist an > > > >> > > > already rising consciousness. Neither are these paragraphs > > > >> > commandments or a > > > >> > > > bugle call to what we need to realize or do. We didn't need > > to be > > > >> > able to > > > >> > > > hear tone in music or need to be aware of its color - it's > just > > > >> > the way > > > >> > > > music is happening to us, rising on a path like the moon. > Some > > > >> > astronomers > > > >> > > > can predict the path of the moon, and surely artists are > those > > > >> > astronomers. > > > >> > > > I understand those who are skeptical or scoff at this as > > > > pompous and > > > >> > > > irrelevant. After all, when you look at the moon, the moon > > looks > > > >> > still. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > He feels the same way about music as I do about my videos, > and at > > > >> > the end he > > > >> > > says, EXTRA CREDIT: Re-read this entire essay but replace the > > word > > > >> > "music" > > > >> > > with the word "images." > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Re-reading it I realized that I unconsciously lifted metaphor > > > >> > directly from > > > >> > > him. Blatant plagiarism! I've already informed him and a > > check is > > > >> > in the > > > >> > > mail. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Because music is a matter of shifting consciousness and not > > worldly > > > >> > sound, a > > > >> > > > person can't claim to own or control music any more than > > they can > > > >> > claim to > > > >> > > > own or control a quadrant of mist over a lake. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > PS. Here is a free album of amazing midi-synthesizer and > > home-made > > > >> > > electronic instrument music by the author of that essay: > > > >> > > http://www.geartekcorporation.com/slowdudes/slowdudes.html > > > >> > > > > > >> > > And some free lo-fi music by me: > > > >> > > http://standards.bullemhead.com/ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -- > > > >> > > Adam Quirk > > > >> > > Wreck & Salvage > > > >> > > 551.208.4644 > > > >> > > Brooklyn, NY > > > >> > > http://wreckandsalvage.com > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Adam Quirk > > > >> Wreck & Salvage > > > >> 551.208.4644 > > > >> Brooklyn, NY > > > >> http://wreckandsalvage.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen > > > <URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
