Well yes its a good thing to support formats that are apparently
unimpinged by patents, and where encoding and decoding stuff for the
formats is available as open source.

I dont think the example of DRM is a very likely future nightmare
reason why people would abandon flash or quicktime, as support for
DRM-content can coexist quite peacfully with all the non-DRM uses of
stuff, but yes, there are reasons why people would want to back an
open format that is free in multiple senses of the word.

An example of people wanting to switch away from h264 in future would
be if they put some silly licenses costs on content creators who use
h264, when these terms are updated in 2010 or something.

Or yeah if Adobe went insane and did something to flash player that
made people not want it installed on their machines.

If these sorts of things dont happen, then there arent too many
reasons to assume ogg will go massive, but its nice to have it around
and support for it in many tools, it is based on good principals and
could be important in the future, depends how many corporations
behave, and we know from human experience that we cant bank on them
always being good corporate citizens.

Am I right to assume the Ogg Theora video playback is provided by this
java app?

http://www.flumotion.net/cortado/

Ive joined the showinabox google group but havent had a moment to post
there yet, will take most of m future input on this stuff otver there
from now on.

I just encoded my first ogg file, using this quicktime plugin stuff:

http://xiph.org/quicktime/download.html

It seemed to go ok, but it is late now and Im tired, so I will have to
stop for tonight.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The main features of this release is being able to play Ogg video with
> >  the included cortado Ogg player.  And on wordpress you can share the
> >  embed code of your videos so viewers can embed the video on their
sites.
> >  To download only vPIP go to:
> >  http://vpip.org/
> >  and select the document page for where you'll be installing vPIP.
> >  To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to:
> >  http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/
> >  and get "The Whole Enchilada"
> 
> and just to be more clear why this new version of vPIP rocks like a
> crazy animal with superpowers:
> 
> Enric included an Ogg player in vPIP...so if you provide an Ogg
> version, anyone can watch it without any installation. The embedded
> video will play like flash. The viewer wont know the difference.
> 
> Why is this important?
> on the Showinabox list (http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box),
> we've been talking about Ogg which is an open source codec....similar
> to Flash.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg)
> The big question is: what happens if Flash or Quicktime starts putting
> DRM in their codec? or starts putting in limitations we dont want?
> There's not much we could do. But Ogg, like wordpress, is infinitely
> malleable. Lots of challenges to overcome, but enric did a big thing
> by making the Ogg viewing experience seemless.
> 
> The new vPIP also has a "multiple embed-code generator", or Share.
> This lets the viewer choose which video format they want to embed on
their site.
> a person might want the 320x240 Flash version.
> someone else might want to embed the 640x480 HD quicktime.
> choices!!!!!
> 
> forward and onward.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
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> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
>


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