On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup, you can use your email --> Flickr :) > > I'm doing that thru http://shozu.com > > Sweeeeet.
Schweet jan. Looking into shozu.com now. :) As for Flickr, mobile video blogging, and mobile event coverage in general, please read on. First, Please speak up (anyone?) if you've ever experimented with getting video to work on the iPhone. There are many rumors the next gen will have video, but if it doesn't I may need to buy one anyway. I can't wait any longer. Second, As an alternative, has anyone used EyeFi camera SD cards yet? I think at some point I'm going to try one of these EyeFi cards as they can automatically connect to any open wifi point and send photos (and now videos!) to flickr and other common sharing services. This seems like a much better alternative then waiting until the iPhone supports video or buying some other alternative like the N95 because I can use the EyeFi card with ANY video camera I choose. The only problem with using EyeFi with Flickr that I can see is it automatically uploads EVERYTHING. I don't think they've devised any way to upload just one or two items. :( This isn't a huge deal for most, particularly because you can set it to upload your photos (and I assume videos) as private by default but I take A LOT of photos and upload less then one in a thousand. I've heard some people just mirror ALL their photos on flickr as well as their hard drive. This is not actually such a bad idea for many and would work great with EyeFi. It's just not for me. Maybe I could learn to pre-edit my shots better, but taking lots of shots is the key to experimenting and being creative. The communicator and the artist in me will always be at odds. Perhaps the answer to this schism between making art and communicating is to focus on a two pronged approach and keep communications and art separate. I.E. Always carry an iPhone or N95 for communicating with video and photo, but carry a separate higher quality camera for shooting video and photo. Indeed despite this one limitation the EyeFi + Flickr combination seems like an great way of doing event coverage at conferences and places with ubiquitous wifi. Case in point. Did anyone check out Andrew Baron's Maker Fair coverage on Flickr? http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewbaron/sets/72157604450070157/detail/ more of andrew's perspective: http://dembot.com/post/31209664 This is not to say he used EyeFi. He didn't. It's not even mobile coverage though the exact same effect very well could be done via mobile video blogging. What I wanted to point out is how imminently browseable and enjoyable the Flickr experience is for events. This is the alternative we (all us attention deficit monkeys) have all been looking for for half hour+ videos of events that we can never sit through. I really enjoyed the clips for what they were though I would enjoy a little but of voice over / narration / background information and meta information in general on some of what's in the videos. I have never enjoyed any sort of event coverage on the web as I have this. Clips that contain brief interviews of the makers with shots of the footage are the absolute best. Once event material starts mixing with photos and content from different users in Flickr groups a sort of abstract telepresence that's truly interactive should be possible. This is not your second life kind of telepresence. It's better. It's real life. It's not 3D it's highly granular twitterings, photos, and videos. In general though Andrew's Maker event coverage is a superb use of flickr and shows why the 90 second clip limit rocks. I love the details view in particular for Flickr Sets as it allowed me to very quickly scan the 85 videos and choose which ones I wanted to watch first. This has me thinking that the whole world might be a better place if Flickr never lifts it's 90 second clip limit. If you want longer videos host on blip or youtube. Flickr is not and should not be about "episodes", "shows" or indeed any sort of linnear experience. Essentially Flickr is embracing the non-linearity inherent in photography, and in essence becoming a twitter for media. (What could be better!) If you can't say it in 90 seconds it's time to break it into two or more clips. Video as communication is at the heart of my reasoning of what this little revolution is about, basic, media rich mass communications. Personally I could care less about many of the innovations in so called episodic content. It's application for new's sake or entertainment is only by comparison marginally as interesting. Though channel101 and 102 do rock my world this right here IS the heart of what this little media revolution is about. For comparison, Andrew has pretty much the same set of videos on rocketboom. http://www.rocketboom.com/maker_faire/ As you can see it's the meta information (titles, descriptions, nice size thumbnails) and the social features (commenting, favoriting, embedding, sets and groups) that make Flickr Sets kick so much ass for video. By contrast the page on rocketboom does not have enough information visible on each video to quickly cherry pic the most interesting videos you want to see. What's more it's the hidden semantic markup of the code in RSS and the metadata that makes it really move... such as making it searchable. It's all in the meta. The usability and accessibility are important too, but the meta info is key. (see Nicholas Negronte's Being Digital for more on the meta. He forever corrupted my brain.) I actually spent the same amount of time going over the materials on both Rocketbook and Flickr and I can say without a doubt that the flickr experience is not only better, but that this may be a new golden standard for future event coverage, especially as event coverage get's more and more social and decentralized such as multi-user / smart mob / swarm coverage of events such as the recent Tibet / China / Olympic protests in San Fran. Viddler, Seesmic, Qik and pretty much all video sites could learn a thing or two from flickr in this area. The usability and findability for Video on Flickr is great and without the complexity of services like viddler (nice as viddler is). What's more Flickr has I believe successfully rediscovered a large niche aspect of the market Yotube has overlooked. This is very similar to twitter's relationship to the larger world of blogging. P.S. I'm currently composing some more through thoughts on Flickr Video. Will post them soon. Peace, -Mike mmeiser.com/blog > > J > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 10, 2008, at 11:25 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: > > > > > I just need a new plugin for iphoto so the export can include the > > > movies. > > > > > > btw, does anyone know if you can email in vids to flickr like you can > > photos? > > > > if so, i may have to look into that iphone video hack :) > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jan McLaughlin > Production Sound Mixer > air = 862-571-5334 > aim = janofsound > skype = janmclaughlin > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
