I think saying we don't need to talk about the money is a little like VC's telling start up founders not to worry about the stock.
Why are we suddenly money grubbing bad individuals to even bring it up? YouTube has structured things so they can be the only game in town, so other companies can't compete, just yet. That's good business for them, but it seems like the same old bad business for the rest of the community/little guy. I'm curious (again, trying to get out of re-reading the *current* youtube TOS, which seems to be ever changing:) -- but does it still say they can do anything they want with your content, once you upload it? (Like put it on TV) Members of this list have commented in the past about how insulting it is to see the words "YouTube Video" on television, when one makes it on the air. I believe it is the youtube TOS that allows them to do this legally -- although I am unclear whether it trumps the required "attribution" of CC licenses for CC licensed works uploaded to youtube. It seems to me that this is more of a "respect for the creator" issue. > The list has always been like that, though I don't agree with it. > I think its partially because this list was around before youtube and > rebelled against youtube as a walled garden. > > Personally, I'm happy if anyone can make a living on what they love. It > really doesn't matter to me. > > > Schlomo Rabinowitz > http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress > http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking > AIM:schlomochat > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Jill H <xgobobe...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am a youtube partner http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx >> we can not discuss our money in public, and yes there are different >> tiers >> of >> partners. >> >> I wonder why people are so fixated on the money. I think everyone should >> be >> a little more supportive. We put a lot of effort into making videos and >> being involved in the social communities to promote it. >> >> Jill >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Lisa Rein >> <l...@lisarein.com<lisa%40lisarein.com>> >> wrote: >> >> > I just wish the actual money wasn't all hush hush. >> > >> > it is my understanding the youtube partners sign an nda and can't talk >> > about what they make. >> > >> > is that still the case for ALL youtube partners? (hoping some on this >> list >> > might speak up) >> > >> > it is also my understanding that, because no one can talk about what >> they >> > make, youtube is able to make different deals with each of it's >> partners >> > -- giving some people more than others etc. >> > >> > My information is over a year old at this point (it was at that time >> that >> > I interviewed several youtube partners, several anonymously - for an >> > article I never published) - so I'd love to know, quickly, like always >> :), >> > if any of this has changed. >> > >> > I'll take a COMPLETE silence as a "yes" btw - since the youtube >> partners >> > will be under contract not to talk, if I understand correctly. (all >> > patriot act style :) >> > >> > best, >> > >> > lisa >> > >> > > Here's an article in today's NYT that probably doesnt tell you >> anything >> > > you >> > > dont already know: >> > > < >> > > >> > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/business/media/11youtube.html?_r=2&ref=todayspaper >> > >> >> > > >> > > I've met both of the subjects and they are really passionate about >> their >> > > vids as well as very serious about doing them as a job... and its >> working >> > > out for them. >> > > >> > > >> > > Schlomo Rabinowitz >> > > http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress >> > > http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking >> > > AIM:schlomochat >> > > >> > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > >> > > >> > >> > Lisa Rein >> > >> > http://onlisareinsradar.com >> > http://www.lisarein.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx >> http:/www.twitter.com/jillhanner >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Lisa Rein http://onlisareinsradar.com http://www.lisarein.com
