Firewire 400 is irrelevant - just spend a few bucks on a new cable  
with 800 at one end and 400 at the other.

And Wired had a good post about why the sealed-in battery in the new  
17" (with 8 hours charge and supposedly extra long life) is a non- 
issue, despite epic amounts of whining:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/01/why-the-17-macb.html

Also, the battery can be replaced if it went kaput - just in-store.   
Which is a hassle, but not worth buying a year old well-used machine  
for the same price as a new one.

Computers drop in value the moment you buy them.  You pay a huge  
premium for buying new.  Or at least, you should.  Personally, I  
think second hand Macs sell for way way too much.

(and to your other question, i think he said it had the free 1 year  
service, not the extended applecare)

Rupert
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On 16-Jan-09, at 2:28 AM, avromspam wrote:

3k makes sense since the new one is missing the firewire 400 port + does
have a removable battery thus to some people 3 K ends up being so much
more worth it all. Big q does the unit have apple care attached to it,
if so that makes it even more valuable.

 > But the new 17" costs $2799 from Apple, so how can he expect to get
$3k for it? What
 > am I missing?




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