Gary, UCLA totally blew AIM off. They basically said we can do whatever we want. What recourse did they have? When I see the follow up posts on the insidehighereduction thread I am shocked at the adversarial and rancorous nature of the educational people. Pretty much let us stream your stuff for free anywhere we want, or we won' t buy it.
I know I seem testy at times on this but you can't imagine how frustrating it is when you see people literally ripping off your stuff. You know I am not an extremist even it may look that way sometimes. I think preventing clip use is ridiculous. I think trying to claim you need rights to show a film in a class is very bad indeed. I believe folks are trying to come up a fair way to compensate filmmakers without making schools pay a fortune but it is a bumpy road. Back to the original question, what should AIM have done when UCLA refused to stop streaming and claimed the right to stream whole films without compensating rights holders ? Jessica On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM, <ghand...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote: > http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/01/26/copyright > > > Hi all > > You know what bothers me about this news item?...it's not so much the > actual substance and nature of this affair (I was pretty sure UCLA was > eventually gonna get whacked)...it's more the incredibly adversarial and > rancorous nature of AIM's approach. Let's face it, the community of > sellers and buyers in this field is miniscule in size... Over the course > of my career, I've always thought of institutional buyers and vendors of > independently distributed media as working collegially and in > concert...we're all rowing the same, often leaky boat, after all. > > I KNOW that some institutions in some instances rock the copyright boat. > My sense is that this usually happens in cases where there's not a media > librarian on board (or at least a media librarian who can stand up to > faculty and strong-arming administrators). I REALIZE copyright > infringement may sorely impact already small profit margins. > > Nonetheless...I'm disturbed by the rather nasty tenor that the conversation > seems to have taken here. I can see Sony or Disney issuing a cease and > desist letter. Somehow, however, I would have hoped for a different tact > from an organization purportedly representing the interests of educational > media vendors. The issues surrounding rights and uses of media are > difficult and confusing, to say the least. There is a great deal of > misunderstanding among end-users regarding what the law may or may not > allow. There are differing opinions about what constitutes fair use in > educational settings. There is no case law that establishes these > parameters. When push comes to shove, I think we're all just trying to > figure this stuff out in a sensible and equitable way... > > I sincerely hope that, in the future, issues such as the ones discussed in > this article can be vetted and explored in a considerably less litigious > and divisive manner. > > > gary handman > > > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- > Subject: [Videonews] More on Institutional Streaming > From: "Dennis Doros" <milefi...@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, January 26, 2010 8:48 am > To: "VideoNews" <videon...@lists.berkeley.edu> > Reply To: "Video Library News" <videon...@lists.berkeley.edu> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This was just posted on the AMIA listserv > > http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/01/26/copyright > > -- > Best, > Dennis Doros > Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero > PO Box 128 > Harrington Park, NJ 07640 > Phone: 201-767-3117 > Fax: 201-767-3035 > email: milefi...@gmail.com > www.milestonefilms.com > www.arayafilm.com > www.exilesfilm.com > www.wordisoutmovie.com > www.killerofsheep.com > AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org > Join "Milestone Film" on Facebook! > VIDEONEWS is an electronic clearinghouse for information about new > services, products, resources, and programs of interest to video > librarians and archivists, educators, and others involved in the > selection, acquisition, programming, and preservation of video materials > in non-profit settings. 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