This is a technical question for the list - so please excuse me if I get some 
of the details a little wrong. Newsreel, as most of you know, sells password 
protected streaming rights for many of our titles. We leave it up to library IT 
people to encode a digital file from a DVD and then stream it from a licensor's 
local server its own authentication system and player. This like the best 
approach for now since no single standard for digital delivery exists and since 
many librarians prefer the content to reside on their local server. When 
Newsreel has its own remote server, it may be sufficient for a library simply 
to have a preservation and reference file but for now we rely on local servers.

I'm wondering what  measures you take to insure that content licensed for 
streaming is not being downloaded and then disseminated virally through the 
plethora of file-sharing sites. Already, Newsreel spends an inordinate amount 
of time issuing take-down orders to sites of varying degrees of legitimacy.

I'm especially interested in the solutions implemented by those of you using 
the current version of RealPlayer SP or who allow students to use it. As you 
know, this version offers viewer the option to download any video streaming at 
the time. In fact, this is the player's default setting which appears inside 
the player, so it almost seems to invite illicit downloading.

I realize any streamed video is hackable if a student has the skills, 
motivation and the right shareware - as Google and others found out recently. 
RealPlayer, however, goes out of its way to make it simple to pilfer digital 
content. It once represented itself as the optimal video player for the 
academic market and remains one of the four major digital video players in use 
today.

I know there are ways to encode video for streaming with protections against 
downloading; Flash has programming codes that can be added to video to prevent 
RealPlayer downloads and these are continually updated. Similarly, a short 
forced video clip (like the commercials that precede Hulu offerings) can 
"trick" the player into downloading the clip but not the content.

I'm wondering what methods you are using to insure that the digital content 
you've licensed for streaming isn't being downloaded onto student hard drives, 
IPods, DVDs, etc? Newsreel has compiled several simple techniques for making 
unlicensed downloading more difficult. But I wonder what ones you are currently 
using? Thanks.

Larry

Lawrence Daressa
California Newsreel
500 Third Street, #505
San Francisco, CA  94107
phone: 415.284.7800 x302
fax: 415.284.7801
l...@newsreel.org
www.newsreel.org 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Find me a photo of Jesus (Rubin, Nan)
   2. Re: The Google Book Settlement still isn't settled (Rubin, Nan)
   3. Statement on video streaming (Carrie Russell)
   4. Re: Statement on video streaming (Dennis Doros)
   5. Pilar Miro films (Karen Ketchaver)
   6. QUE VIVA MEXICO in the public domain? (Steffen, James M)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:57:22 -0500
From: "Rubin, Nan" <rub...@thirteen.org>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Find me a photo of Jesus
To: "Association of Moving Image Archivists" <ami...@lsv.uky.edu>,
        <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
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Sent along by Catherine Stimac at Oregon Public Broadcasting, who is
coordinating the American Archive Pilot Project.  On this thoroughly
entertaining short film, she sez "We owe a lot to the archivists,
researchers, producers, preservationists, and all of you! Check out this
NPR story.    Brilliant!"

 
http://www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2010/02/find_me_a_photo_of_jesus_an
d_o.html
.........

And also from this week's edition of On the Media, a great story
celebrating librarians! 

Brooke Gladstone's interview called "Librarians Gone Wild

http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/19/08

February 19, 2010

"In her new book, author Marilyn Johnson argues that, even in the Google
age, human beings, namely librarians, are still the best resource for
accurate answers. In fact, Johnson says librarians are more important
now then ever before. Plus, they're fascinating! They compete in dance
competitions and blog about the quirky and downright disgusting behavior
of patrons."

Personally, the Book Cart Drill Team competitions had me falling off my
chair.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpFf1i1_g5I


Go team!

Nan Rubin

Nan Rubin, Project Director 
Preserving Digital Public Television 
Thirteen 
450 W.  33rd St. 
New York, NY  10001 
212-560-2925 (direct line) 
212-560-2833 fax 
rub...@thirteen.org 
www.ptvdigitalarchive.o



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:04:59 -0500
From: "Rubin, Nan" <rub...@thirteen.org>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Google Book Settlement still isn't settled
To: "Association of Moving Image Archivists" <ami...@lsv.uky.edu>,
        <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
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One more great segment that was On the Media this week -- Larry Lessig
commenting on his negative take of the possible Google book settlement,
whenever and whatever it might be...

Can't Quote This
February 19, 2010

This week a federal judge heard arguments to determine whether to
approve the settlement between Google and two major arms of the
publishing industry over Google Books. Many groups used this week's
hearings to air grievances with the project. Harvard Law professor
Lawrence Lessig argues an unintended consequence of the settlement could
alter print culture as we know it.

http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/19/01

Best,
Nan Rubin

Nan Rubin, Project Director 
Preserving Digital Public Television 
Thirteen 
450 W.  33rd St. 
New York, NY  10001 
212-560-2925 (direct line) 
212-560-2833 fax 
rub...@thirteen.org 
www.ptvdigitalarchive.o



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:41:18 -0500
From: "Carrie Russell" <cruss...@alawash.org>
Subject: [Videolib] Statement on video streaming
To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
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Judy said: 

--------------------------------
One interesting comment in this statement:

"Moreover, educational institutions are likely to use only lawfully made
and acquired copies"

Not if the item which they want to stream is a DVD with protective
encryption, any digitized-for-streaming version of which is illegal."
-----------------------------------------------
I say: This is true only to an extent. If a DVD is encrypted, the user
can use the video version of the title (if available), and digitize it
for the classroom stream.  In addition, if the DVD is encrypted, screen
capture software could be used (although the quality would suffer)
which the Copyright Office offered as a lawful alternative to DeCSS at
the last 1201 rulemaking.    -Carrie Russell



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:48:44 -0500
From: Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Statement on video streaming
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
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Dear Carrie,

Just to clarify, by video, you mean VHS? That would make sense to me.

Best,
Dennis
Milestone F&V

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Carrie Russell <cruss...@alawash.org>wrote:

> Judy said:
>
> --------------------------------
> One interesting comment in this statement:
>
> "Moreover, educational institutions are likely to use only lawfully made
> and acquired copies"
>
> Not if the item which they want to stream is a DVD with protective
> encryption, any digitized-for-streaming version of which is illegal."
> -----------------------------------------------
> I say: This is true only to an extent. If a DVD is encrypted, the user
> can use the video version of the title (if available), and digitize it
> for the classroom stream.  In addition, if the DVD is encrypted, screen
> capture software could be used (although the quality would suffer)
> which the Copyright Office offered as a lawful alternative to DeCSS at
> the last 1201 rulemaking.    -Carrie Russell
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>



-- 
Best,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
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www.milestonefilms.com
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:53:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Karen Ketchaver <kketcha...@jcu.edu>
Subject: [Videolib] Pilar Miro films
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A faculty member asked our library to acquire these films by the Spanish 
director Pilar Miro: "El Crimen de Cuenca," "Gary Cooper, Que Estas en los 
Cielos," "Hablamos Esta Noche," "Tu Nombre Envenena Mis Suenos," "El Pajaro de 
la Felicidad," "La Peticion," "Werther," and "Beltenebros." I found a PAL 
version of "Beltenebros" but have struck out with the others. They seem to have 
been released on VHS in Europe, not in the U.S. 

I'm ready to throw up my hands - anyone have any ideas? Thank you.

Karen G. Ketchaver
Acquisitions Unit Leader
Grasselli Library
John Carroll University
20700 North Park Blvd.
University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
U.S.A.
(216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax  




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:03:57 -0500
From: "Steffen, James M" <jste...@emory.edu>
Subject: [Videolib] QUE VIVA MEXICO in the public domain?
To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
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I'm curious about this one...



I came across Eisenstein's QUE VIVA MEXICO in the Internet Archive, listed as a 
"public domain" title:



http://www.archive.org/details/QuevivaMexico



Note that it's the Grigori Alexandrov reconstruction dating from the 1970s, and 
Kino is distributing it on DVD in the U.S. Needless to say, the Internet 
Archive's copy looks lousy compared to the DVD. Mainly, I'm curious as to how 
they could argue that it's in the public domain.



--James


--
James M. Steffen, PhD
Film Studies and Media Librarian
Theater and Dance Subject Liaison
Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library
Emory University
540 Asbury Circle
Atlanta, GA 30322-2870

Phone: (404) 727-8107
FAX: (404) 727-2257
Email: jste...@emory.edu
Web: www.jamesmsteffen.net



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