This is a technical question for the list - so please excuse me if I get some of the details a little wrong. Newsreel, as most of you know, sells password protected streaming rights for many of our titles. We leave it up to library IT people to encode a digital file from a DVD and then stream it from a licensor's local server its own authentication system and player. This like the best approach for now since no single standard for digital delivery exists and since many librarians prefer the content to reside on their local server. When Newsreel has its own remote server, it may be sufficient for a library simply to have a preservation and reference file but for now we rely on local servers.
I'm wondering what measures you take to insure that content licensed for streaming is not being downloaded and then disseminated virally through the plethora of file-sharing sites. Already, Newsreel spends an inordinate amount of time issuing take-down orders to sites of varying degrees of legitimacy. I'm especially interested in the solutions implemented by those of you using the current version of RealPlayer SP or who allow students to use it. As you know, this version offers viewer the option to download any video streaming at the time. In fact, this is the player's default setting which appears inside the player, so it almost seems to invite illicit downloading. I realize any streamed video is hackable if a student has the skills, motivation and the right shareware - as Google and others found out recently. RealPlayer, however, goes out of its way to make it simple to pilfer digital content. It once represented itself as the optimal video player for the academic market and remains one of the four major digital video players in use today. I know there are ways to encode video for streaming with protections against downloading; Flash has programming codes that can be added to video to prevent RealPlayer downloads and these are continually updated. Similarly, a short forced video clip (like the commercials that precede Hulu offerings) can "trick" the player into downloading the clip but not the content. I'm wondering what methods you are using to insure that the digital content you've licensed for streaming isn't being downloaded onto student hard drives, IPods, DVDs, etc? Newsreel has compiled several simple techniques for making unlicensed downloading more difficult. But I wonder what ones you are currently using? Thanks. Larry Lawrence Daressa California Newsreel 500 Third Street, #505 San Francisco, CA 94107 phone: 415.284.7800 x302 fax: 415.284.7801 l...@newsreel.org www.newsreel.org -----Original Message----- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:04 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 27, Issue 78 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Find me a photo of Jesus (Rubin, Nan) 2. Re: The Google Book Settlement still isn't settled (Rubin, Nan) 3. Statement on video streaming (Carrie Russell) 4. Re: Statement on video streaming (Dennis Doros) 5. Pilar Miro films (Karen Ketchaver) 6. QUE VIVA MEXICO in the public domain? (Steffen, James M) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:57:22 -0500 From: "Rubin, Nan" <rub...@thirteen.org> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Find me a photo of Jesus To: "Association of Moving Image Archivists" <ami...@lsv.uky.edu>, <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1f7d97f07e44474c8b2a3dd88e6a5aa00b832...@wnet-xch2.thirteen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sent along by Catherine Stimac at Oregon Public Broadcasting, who is coordinating the American Archive Pilot Project. On this thoroughly entertaining short film, she sez "We owe a lot to the archivists, researchers, producers, preservationists, and all of you! Check out this NPR story. Brilliant!" http://www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2010/02/find_me_a_photo_of_jesus_an d_o.html ......... And also from this week's edition of On the Media, a great story celebrating librarians! Brooke Gladstone's interview called "Librarians Gone Wild http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/19/08 February 19, 2010 "In her new book, author Marilyn Johnson argues that, even in the Google age, human beings, namely librarians, are still the best resource for accurate answers. In fact, Johnson says librarians are more important now then ever before. Plus, they're fascinating! They compete in dance competitions and blog about the quirky and downright disgusting behavior of patrons." Personally, the Book Cart Drill Team competitions had me falling off my chair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpFf1i1_g5I Go team! Nan Rubin Nan Rubin, Project Director Preserving Digital Public Television Thirteen 450 W. 33rd St. New York, NY 10001 212-560-2925 (direct line) 212-560-2833 fax rub...@thirteen.org www.ptvdigitalarchive.o ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:04:59 -0500 From: "Rubin, Nan" <rub...@thirteen.org> Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Google Book Settlement still isn't settled To: "Association of Moving Image Archivists" <ami...@lsv.uky.edu>, <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1f7d97f07e44474c8b2a3dd88e6a5aa00b832...@wnet-xch2.thirteen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One more great segment that was On the Media this week -- Larry Lessig commenting on his negative take of the possible Google book settlement, whenever and whatever it might be... Can't Quote This February 19, 2010 This week a federal judge heard arguments to determine whether to approve the settlement between Google and two major arms of the publishing industry over Google Books. Many groups used this week's hearings to air grievances with the project. Harvard Law professor Lawrence Lessig argues an unintended consequence of the settlement could alter print culture as we know it. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/19/01 Best, Nan Rubin Nan Rubin, Project Director Preserving Digital Public Television Thirteen 450 W. 33rd St. New York, NY 10001 212-560-2925 (direct line) 212-560-2833 fax rub...@thirteen.org www.ptvdigitalarchive.o ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:41:18 -0500 From: "Carrie Russell" <cruss...@alawash.org> Subject: [Videolib] Statement on video streaming To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <6eef089fc9523345b836caacbbd9f2cc01fed...@alaexch01.alawash.internal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Judy said: -------------------------------- One interesting comment in this statement: "Moreover, educational institutions are likely to use only lawfully made and acquired copies" Not if the item which they want to stream is a DVD with protective encryption, any digitized-for-streaming version of which is illegal." ----------------------------------------------- I say: This is true only to an extent. If a DVD is encrypted, the user can use the video version of the title (if available), and digitize it for the classroom stream. In addition, if the DVD is encrypted, screen capture software could be used (although the quality would suffer) which the Copyright Office offered as a lawful alternative to DeCSS at the last 1201 rulemaking. -Carrie Russell ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:48:44 -0500 From: Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Statement on video streaming To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: <2ad8b9eb1002220748h2e6597f7r99f66ee3d6436...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Carrie, Just to clarify, by video, you mean VHS? That would make sense to me. Best, Dennis Milestone F&V On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Carrie Russell <cruss...@alawash.org>wrote: > Judy said: > > -------------------------------- > One interesting comment in this statement: > > "Moreover, educational institutions are likely to use only lawfully made > and acquired copies" > > Not if the item which they want to stream is a DVD with protective > encryption, any digitized-for-streaming version of which is illegal." > ----------------------------------------------- > I say: This is true only to an extent. If a DVD is encrypted, the user > can use the video version of the title (if available), and digitize it > for the classroom stream. In addition, if the DVD is encrypted, screen > capture software could be used (although the quality would suffer) > which the Copyright Office offered as a lawful alternative to DeCSS at > the last 1201 rulemaking. -Carrie Russell > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > -- Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 Fax: 201-767-3035 email: milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org Join "Milestone Film" on Facebook! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Karen Ketchaver <kketcha...@jcu.edu> Subject: [Videolib] Pilar Miro films To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: <20100222115340.dgc50...@mirapoint.jcu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A faculty member asked our library to acquire these films by the Spanish director Pilar Miro: "El Crimen de Cuenca," "Gary Cooper, Que Estas en los Cielos," "Hablamos Esta Noche," "Tu Nombre Envenena Mis Suenos," "El Pajaro de la Felicidad," "La Peticion," "Werther," and "Beltenebros." I found a PAL version of "Beltenebros" but have struck out with the others. They seem to have been released on VHS in Europe, not in the U.S. I'm ready to throw up my hands - anyone have any ideas? Thank you. Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:03:57 -0500 From: "Steffen, James M" <jste...@emory.edu> Subject: [Videolib] QUE VIVA MEXICO in the public domain? To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <c9746823e2568f4c858f488a983edbc9016c64338...@exchange21.enterprise.emory.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm curious about this one... I came across Eisenstein's QUE VIVA MEXICO in the Internet Archive, listed as a "public domain" title: http://www.archive.org/details/QuevivaMexico Note that it's the Grigori Alexandrov reconstruction dating from the 1970s, and Kino is distributing it on DVD in the U.S. Needless to say, the Internet Archive's copy looks lousy compared to the DVD. Mainly, I'm curious as to how they could argue that it's in the public domain. --James -- James M. Steffen, PhD Film Studies and Media Librarian Theater and Dance Subject Liaison Marian K. 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