Yipes... I also think that it’s perfectly reasonable to license for “life of file” (i.e. to disallow further migration) is sorta strange and troubling
Do I contract myself? (to quote Whitman)...I think it's "sorta strange" and I do not think it's "perfectly reasonable"... g > Thanks for the clarifications and elucidations, Larry > > I realize that concurrent use is technically technical (i.e. it's > fundamentally a server/network issue). Nonetheless, the practice of > charging more for more concurrent users isn't, by any means, limited to > e-book territory. It's an insidious practice that has been going on for a > fair amount of time in the print database world. All I'm saying is that I > don't want to see it picked up as video folk march into the brave new > world... > > I'd like to say a few words about the issue of image resolution. I speak > only for Berkeley (which, as we all know, is a dark and mysterious kingdom > unto its own) when I say that streamed video is not now, nor is it likely > be in the foreseeable future, an adequate mode of delivering content to > the classroom. The commonly reprehensible state of classroom > technologies, the lack of classroom maintenance and technical support, the > vagaries of network delivery, and...most importantly, the very (very) low > tolerance of most faculty (even young faculty) for having to learn new > tricks or to fiddle around at the podium, make streamed video for > classroom screening impractical and generally undesirable compared to good > old disc play... > > I think that making an archival copy of the streamed file available is > sensible and swell. I also think that it’s perfectly reasonable to license > for “life of file” (i.e. to disallow further migration) is sorta strange > and troubling: there really is no suitable analogy between digital file > migration and, say, migration from UMATIC to ½” tape, or from ½” tape to > DVD—it’s a different ballgame entirely. Why would a distributor care if > we decided to switch from Windows Media to Flash, for eg? The potential > audience is exactly the same, and the switch means nothing to the > distributor in terms of production costs or other overhead. I can see > that the switch from tape to disc meant something in terms of both > additional costs and additional revenue for distributors. The switch from > one codec to another isn’t the same thing at all... > > Looking forward to further interesting discussion... > > Gary Handman > > First I want to thank all of you who have responded so generously both >> on and off list. Your points are all well-taken and will inform any >> platform we construct. >> >> I'd like to respond to a few of Gary's points because, as usual, they go >> to the heart of the matter and, I think, can be easily accommodated. >> >> 1. Concurrent streaming is largely a function of the servers not the >> distributor. Streaming capacity depends on bit rate (kbps) which in turn >> determines image quality as well as storage and usage costs. Much >> educational content is streamed at 360kbps for lap- or desk-top viewing; >> while 1200 kbps is preferable for digital projection. Some distributors >> offer a choice between low-res and high-res streams to accommodate >> either individual or classroom use. Gary may be referring to the >> "e-book" model of some publishers which permits only one user (reader) >> per week or at a given time. We have not considered selling "virtual >> DVDs" although we will support individual digital rentals. >> >> 2. Alexander Street Press, I understand, will supply an electronic file >> with each purchase of one of its collections. I should think we could >> make a similar offer for individual titles in some standard format. >> >> 3. Distributors can sell a digital file for "the life of the file" just >> as they can sell DVDs for "the life of the tape." What they can not sell >> is the right to migrate (copy) that file into another format after their >> contract with the producer expires. >> >> I wish we could have shared Chris Lewis' "Think twice before printing >> this e-mail" because American University is such a hotbed of Fair Use >> activism. One of the advantages of remote streaming for distributors is >> that it gives them more control over content. The ability to quote >> (clip)streamed content even as a Fair Use would require authentication. >> Most professors won't be adept enough to capture actual streams (as >> opposed to progressive download streams.) This could jeopardize or >> inhibit legitimate Fair Use applications while it excluded the kind of >> wholesale expropriation advocated by UCLA and AU's Center for Social >> Media. >> >> Larry Daressa >> >> >> Lawrence Daressa >> California Newsreel >> 500 Third Street, #505 >> San Francisco, CA 94107 >> phone: 415.284.7800 x302 >> fax: 415.284.7801 >> l...@newsreel.org >> www.newsreel.org >> -----Original Message----- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >> videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:07 PM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 31, Issue 43 >> >> Send videolib mailing list submissions to >> videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkele >> y.edu >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: PBS vs. FMG (Joanne M. Grason) >> 2. Larry D. question re streaming: few more thoughts >> (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu) >> 3. Re: Larry D. question re streaming: few more thoughts >> (Cameron Cox) >> 4. Two Things (tom.i...@unlv.edu) >> 5. Re: Larry D. question re streaming: few more thoughts >> (CROWLEY, CHRISTINE) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:16:18 -0400 >> From: "Joanne M. Grason" <jgra...@comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] PBS vs. FMG >> To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >> Message-ID: <2a9b287001794f3585ead399a97b6...@ddf5qr71> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> >> CollegeAnywhere is a non-profit incorporated entity whose primary >> mission is >> to make streaming media available to primarily educational institutions >> at >> the lowest cost possible. >> >> >> >> Content-wise, CollegeAnywhere, through agreements with Annenberg Media >> and >> PBS for its digital library, as well as agreements with other producers >> of >> educational media, offers hundreds of hours of close captioned streaming >> media that can be easily imported into any CMS platform. A powerful >> search >> engine allows for access to the video collection by caption, producer or >> series title. >> >> >> >> The main differentiator between CollegeAnywhere and other streaming >> media >> services is that CollegeAnywhere allows faculty users to create >> bookmarks >> from entire videos. Links to these bookmarks are embedded into a CMS >> along >> with directions if the instructor wishes about the video clip. Also, a >> "learning module feature" is now available. The instructor can create >> questions enabling the student to self assess their understanding of any >> point made in the bookmarked clip. >> >> >> >> Collegeanywhere technology is flash-based and is applicable to any >> material >> created by the faculty member (documents, power points, spreadsheets, >> etc...) >> >> >> >> CollegeAnywhere pricing is based on purchase of full video collections >> (e.g., 48 Annenberg Media one hour titles), although single video titles >> are >> also available. >> >> >> >> >> Joanne M Grason >> Annenberg Media >> 240 631 9546 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:55 PM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] PBS vs. FMG >> >> Assuming both options were equal, I would probably just as soon use >> the distributors' systems to reduce the workload and troubleshooting. >> >> I also agree with Gary's caveats though. If we can provide a better >> looking image that loads more quickly, I'd probably favor a local >> system. >> >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lawrence Daressa <l...@newsreel.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> California Newsreel, Women Make Movies, Icarus Films and Bullfrog >> Films >>> are considering building a joint digital delivery platform. We would >>> maintain our own discrete portals and on-line catalogs but share a >>> shopping cart, customer registration system and digital fulfillment >>> capacity. We have looked at FMG and Ambrose 2.0 as setting "industry >>> standards" for remote delivery. >>> >>> Last week, there was a posting which seemed to say that PBS was >> adopting >>> a different model. They would supply DVDs or digital files which could >>> then be streamed from password protected local servers. >>> >>> Setting aside any questions of pricing and rights, which of these two >>> models, local or remote delivery, would your library prefer today? >> Which >>> do you think it will prefer five years from now? >>> >>> Thanks for helping us decide how best to accomplish the "digital >>> migration" of our collections. >>> >>> Best Wishes >>> Larry Daressa >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Lawrence Daressa >>> California Newsreel >>> 500 Third Street, #505 >>> San Francisco, CA ?94107 >>> phone: 415.284.7800 x302 >>> fax: 415.284.7801 >>> l...@newsreel.org >>> www.newsreel.org >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >>> videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu >>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:05 PM >>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>> Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 31, Issue 40 >>> >>> Send videolib mailing list submissions to >>> ? ? ? ?video...@lists.berkeley.edu >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> >> https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkele >>> y.edu >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> ? ? ? ?videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> ? ? ? ?videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> ? 1. Re: DVDs & "doughnut" labels (CROWLEY, CHRISTINE) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:13:21 -0500 >>> From: "CROWLEY, CHRISTINE" <ccrowl...@alamo.edu> >>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] DVDs & "doughnut" labels >>> To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >>> Message-ID: >>> ? ? ? ?<dbce06919cb10d438b9adeb7486c3d4101af1...@accdmail2.ad.root> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> We use the 3m overlays and have a printed doughnut hole label, no >>> problems that I am aware of. >>> >>> Christine Crowley >>> Dean of Learning Resources >>> Northwest Vista College >>> 3535 N. Ellison Dr. >>> San Antonio, TX 78251 >>> 210.486.4572 office >>> 210.486.4504 fax >>> ccrowl...@alamo.edu >>> Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges >>> www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu on behalf of >> m.lo...@mphpl.org >>> Sent: Sat 6/19/2010 12:31 PM >>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] DVDs & "doughnut" labels >>> >>> >>> We have been using the 'doughnuts' under the security over-lays for >>> several years. ?We have had very few complaints and it has helped us >> to >>> lower the rate of theft and minimize the shelf space now without bulky >>> security covers. We have a circular property stamp on the doughnut and >>> we by hand write the last significant digits of the bar code for our >>> tracking encase the disc and the case become separated. >>> >>> >>> Marsha Loyer >>> Media Services Coordinator >>> Mishawaka-Penn-Harris Public Library >>> 209 Lincoln Way East >>> Mishawaka, IN 46544 >>> Phone: 574-259-5277 >>> Fax: 574-254-5585 >>> Email: m.lo...@mphpl.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ? ? ?-------- Original Message -------- >>> ? ? ? ?Subject: [Videolib] DVDs & "doughnut" labels >>> ? ? ? ?From: "Logan, Michael" <mlo...@co.humboldt.ca.us> >>> ? ? ? ?Date: Fri, June 18, 2010 7:01 pm >>> ? ? ? ?To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >>> >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Hi everyone, >>> >>> ? ? ? ?I'm wondering if anyone is using 3M security-strip overlays in >>> ? ? ? ?conjunction with a "doughnut" hub label. We are currently using >>> the >>> ? ? ? ?overlays and hand-writing our library's ownership information >>> around the >>> ? ? ? ?DVD hub, as we had been concerned about excessive labels >>> throwing off >>> ? ? ? ?the DVDs' spin/balance. But we're trying to streamline the >>> processing of >>> ? ? ? ?these items, and get them out on the shelves faster. >>> >>> ? ? ? ?We're very interested in anyone who has used both the security >>> overlays >>> ? ? ? ?WITH a printable (or pre-printed) hub label--has this worked >> for >>> you? >>> ? ? ? ?Have there been problems (patron complaints about playability >>> issues, >>> ? ? ? ?etc.)? Any real-world information would be greatly appreciated! >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Thanks very much, >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Michael Logan >>> ? ? ? ?Acquisitions & Technical Services >>> ? ? ? ?Humboldt County Library >>> ? ? ? ?Eureka, CA >>> ? ? ? ?(707) 269-1962 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ? ? ?VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively >>> discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and >>> evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is >>> hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video >>> librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed and removed. >>> Name: not available >>> Type: application/ms-tnef >>> Size: 6380 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> Non-text attachments are only available in MIME digests. >>> >>> End of videolib Digest, Vol 31, Issue 40 >>> **************************************** >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chris Lewis >> Media Librarian >> American University Library >> 202.885.3257 >> >> Please think twice before printing this e-mail. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries >> and >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >> effective >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:47:46 -0700 >> From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Subject: [Videolib] Larry D. question re streaming: few more thoughts >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Message-ID: >> <451d42f6502a54e0f1f0146aa8a6e72b.squir...@calmail.berkeley.edu> >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 >> >> Hi all >> >> On my walk to work this am, I thought of a few other issues and concerns >> re the remote/local streaming question. >> >> One of the benefits of local streaming is the unlimited concurrent use >> possibilities...on the other hand, many vendor-supplied online >> electronic >> resources (print, included) put limits on concurrent usage, either >> because >> of network limits or, frankly, because the vendor wants more money for >> more concurrent users. If Newsreel, Icarus, WMM, Bullfrog, et al decide >> to go to the remote access model--in whole or as one option--I would be >> concerned by the imposition of such limits. >> >> Price (ah! pricing): the current model for abovementioned seems to have >> shaken down to price of license (3-5yrs) = price of DVD x 2... In a >> vendor-supplied streaming scenario, it's conceivable that an institution >> may ONLY want the streamed version (and not the DVD), in which case the >> above pricing is waaaaay out of line. >> >> And speaking of DVDs: a concern that's certainly not unique with video >> is >> the fate of collections and collection access in an electronic content >> environment. Let's suppose there's a partial or wholesale shift to >> licensing access, rather than maintaining collections of physical >> artifacts such as DVDs...We all know how volatile the video marketplace >> is >> (vendors keep telling us that the reason they can't offer perpetual >> rights >> is because THEIR contracts with filmmakers are never perpetual...right?) >> What does this bode for long term access? A move to >> distributor-supplied >> streamed video means that long-term access will always be an issue. >> On the other hand, local delivery models usually involve taking a >> purchased DVD and cranking it into digital for streamed delivery for an >> institution's server. In such models, even if the rights to stream go >> away in time, there's still a DVD around. (In fact, I'd argue that the >> licenses we're currently signing with distributors to locally serve >> video >> should ALWAYS include a clause that says, if a title for which a >> streaming >> license has been purchased goes "out of distribution", the institution >> has >> the right to continue maintaining and delivering the digital copy) >> >> Another thought: seems to me that delivery from a remote distributor's >> server makes arrangements such as consortial and regional buying >> increasingly feasible... Our distributor friends need to be thinking >> about the pricing models for such arrangements which are both realistic >> and scalable. >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:28:06 -0700 >> From: "Cameron Cox" <c...@intelecom.org> >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Larry D. question re streaming: few more >> thoughts >> To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >> Message-ID: >> >> <6e76ad50d4eeb542840e1f04cbb87741479...@calax-sbsrv-01s.intelecom.local> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> INTELECOM currently has agreements/offers in place with VALE and the >> California Community College League library consortium for our VOD >> service and repository. And we've been in discussions with Lyrasis, >> SCELC, Orbis Cascade, CARLI, VIVA, Amigos as well. If there are other >> consortia INTELECOM should be speaking with, I hope the list will please >> let us know. >> >> For years we worked with distance learning consortia (e.g. CODE, NILRC) >> for our telecourse products, which allowed us to extend group buy >> discounts. And we would welcome the opportunity to do the same thing >> for our video repository working with library consortia. >> >> Cameron Cox >> INTELECOM >> >> ## >> >> Another thought: seems to me that delivery from a remote distributor's >> server makes arrangements such as consortial and regional buying >> increasingly feasible... Our distributor friends need to be thinking >> about the pricing models for such arrangements which are both realistic >> and scalable. >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel >> of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:20:40 -0700 >> From: tom.i...@unlv.edu >> Subject: [Videolib] Two Things >> To: video...@list.berkeley.edu <video...@list.berkeley.edu> >> Message-ID: >> >> <of8c6a6f7a.81385b4d-on8825774a.00648efb-8825774a.0064c...@unlv.edu> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Here are two things of possible interest: >> >> Pew Internet State of Online Video report: >> http://pewinternet.org/Reports/2010/State-of-Online-Video.aspx >> >> Video Trends: http://stephenslighthouse.com/2010/06/22/video-trends/ >> >> The second link is interesting because it's coming from someone who is >> not >> a media librarian. He basically poses some questions about the role of >> streaming media for libraries. >> >> Tom >> >> _____________________________ >> Tom Ipri, MS >> Head, Media and Computer Services >> Lied Library >> University of Nevada, Las Vegas >> 4505 S. Maryland Pkwy >> Box 457035 >> Las Vegas, NV 89154-7035 >> 702-895-2183 >> tom.i...@unlv.edu >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. >> HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:42:50 -0500 >> From: "CROWLEY, CHRISTINE" <ccrowl...@alamo.edu> >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Larry D. question re streaming: few more >> thoughts >> To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >> Message-ID: >> <dbce06919cb10d438b9adeb7486c3d4101a84...@accdmail2.ad.root> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Some very salient points here, Gary. This is one email I am keeping in a >> folder (as opposed to the Inbox with holds over 2500 "incidental" >> emails! >> :) >> >> Christine Crowley >> Dean of Learning Resources >> Northwest Vista College >> 3535 N. Ellison Dr. >> San Antonio, TX 78251 >> 210.486.4572 voice >> 210.486.4504 fax >> NEW NAME AND email--ccrowl...@alamo.edu >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:48 AM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: [Videolib] Larry D. question re streaming: few more thoughts >> >> Hi all >> >> On my walk to work this am, I thought of a few other issues and concerns >> re the remote/local streaming question. >> >> One of the benefits of local streaming is the unlimited concurrent use >> possibilities...on the other hand, many vendor-supplied online >> electronic >> resources (print, included) put limits on concurrent usage, either >> because >> of network limits or, frankly, because the vendor wants more money for >> more concurrent users. If Newsreel, Icarus, WMM, Bullfrog, et al decide >> to go to the remote access model--in whole or as one option--I would be >> concerned by the imposition of such limits. >> >> Price (ah! pricing): the current model for abovementioned seems to have >> shaken down to price of license (3-5yrs) = price of DVD x 2... In a >> vendor-supplied streaming scenario, it's conceivable that an institution >> may ONLY want the streamed version (and not the DVD), in which case the >> above pricing is waaaaay out of line. >> >> And speaking of DVDs: a concern that's certainly not unique with video >> is >> the fate of collections and collection access in an electronic content >> environment. Let's suppose there's a partial or wholesale shift to >> licensing access, rather than maintaining collections of physical >> artifacts such as DVDs...We all know how volatile the video marketplace >> is >> (vendors keep telling us that the reason they can't offer perpetual >> rights >> is because THEIR contracts with filmmakers are never perpetual...right?) >> What does this bode for long term access? A move to >> distributor-supplied >> streamed video means that long-term access will always be an issue. >> On the other hand, local delivery models usually involve taking a >> purchased DVD and cranking it into digital for streamed delivery for an >> institution's server. In such models, even if the rights to stream go >> away in time, there's still a DVD around. (In fact, I'd argue that the >> licenses we're currently signing with distributors to locally serve >> video >> should ALWAYS include a clause that says, if a title for which a >> streaming >> license has been purchased goes "out of distribution", the institution >> has >> the right to continue maintaining and delivering the digital copy) >> >> Another thought: seems to me that delivery from a remote distributor's >> server makes arrangements such as consortial and regional buying >> increasingly feasible... Our distributor friends need to be thinking >> about the pricing models for such arrangements which are both realistic >> and scalable. >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel >> of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> >> >> End of videolib Digest, Vol 31, Issue 43 >> **************************************** >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel >> of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> > > > Gary Handman > Director > Media Resources Center > Moffitt Library > UC Berkeley > > 510-643-8566 > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC > > "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." > --Francois Truffaut > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
