I think it is a problem because, yes the item is in the public domain, but what ever wrapper Internet Archives has put on the item is not. I assume Prelinger has put a Cretive Commons License on their additions, but they probably forbid "commericalization" of their product. Because the stream lists Prelinger Archives in the URL a downloader could think that by purchasing it at Films they are supporting the Internet archives when they may not be. My two cents. jhs
John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media "Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian" -- James Turner "Rex Libris" Transitus profusum est nocens! >>> "Jaeschke, Myles" <mjae...@tulsalibrary.org> 9/29/2010 8:50 AM >>> Well PD films have been available in VHS and DVD for a long time and we all keep buying them. Why? Because it's too much trouble for many of us to make a dub and have it on hand when it goes missing. Yeah, streaming PD titles can be a bit different. Prelinger films are always there (in theory) freely available to stream at archive.org. I guess I just look at it as a "convenience" that FMG is selling. No, I would not buy FMGs stream knowing that it was freely available legally elsewhere. Companies have been selling PD titles for a long time what difference does it make what format it is in? On the other hand you can look at it as a company taking advantage of someone that may not have knowledge that a title is available for free legally elsewhere. Best, Myles -----Original Message----- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:34 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale??? Check out http://films.com/id/17839/Prelinger_Archives_American_Thrift_Part_I_1962.htm I have a note into Rick Prelinger, who may or may not be aware of this. I have huge respect for Rick, so I hope it's "not" gary > Can you forward some examples. J. > > > Op 29-09-10 17:07, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > <ghand...@library.berkeley.edu> schreef: > >> Hi all >> >> Just came across something sort of odd. I notice that Films Media is >> selling streaming licenses for a number of public domain films that are >> available absolutely free on the Internet Moving Image Archive. This >> doesn't seem right to me. >> >> Maybe our friends at Films.com can elaborate? >> >> Gary >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries >> and >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >> effective >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
