OK I think something is backwards here so just to clarify again, my point
was the ALA and ACRL have in fact supported extremely radical view of
copyright specifically as regards media and streaming (and other things) and
done so with not only zero input from rights holders like actual filmmakers,
but ALA at least conducts some of its sessions in private to specifically
make sure rights holders are not involved (I think a few of you know what I
am referring to).

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:21 PM, <ghand...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> What do you mean ALA and ACRL have increasingly done the same thing?
>
> The pronouncements made by ARL on the subject of the UCLA case have been
> made without  consulting or involving a single video librarian (at least
> as far as I know), let alone AIME.
>
> As for ALA...The Association has historically never given a rat's ass
> about any aspect of video, so it's not surprising that it remains clueless
> and speechless on this issue as well.
>
> gary handman
>
>
>
> > Allen.
> > Two sides of the story from Center for Intellectual Property? What have
> > been
> > smoking in Vegas? I have never seen any right holder represented in their
> > seminars. Keep in mind ALA and ACRL have increasingly doing the same
> thing
> > only worse. They not only give only one side, they make the sessions
> > private
> > so they don't even have to go on record with their views despite advising
> > libraries to follow them.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Allen Dohra <aldo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  Thanks for the info Deg,
> >>
> >> I'd love for you to get involved and ask the simple question, "If this
> >> is a
> >> discussion, who is representing AIME's side?"
> >>
> >> Allen
> >>
> >> > From: deg.farre...@asu.edu
> >> > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> >> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:22:35 -0700
> >> > Subject: [Videolib] Center for Intellectual Property - 3 part
> >> presentation on AIME v UCLA
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I hate to raise this issue again.
> >> >
> >> > FYI, the Center for Intellectual Property is presenting a three part
> >> teleconference on AIME v UCLA in August.
> >> >
> >> > As this is part of a membership drive, it appears one must be a member
> >> to
> >> attend.
> >> >
> >> > Information here:
> >> http://cipcommunity.org/s/1039/index-wide.aspx?sid=1039&gid=1&pgid=676
> >> >
> >> > -deg
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > deg farrelly, Media Librarian
> >> > Mail Code 1006
> >> > Arizona State University
> >> > P.O. Box 871006
> >> > Tempe, AZ 85287
> >> > Phone: 480.965.1403
> >> > Email: deg.farre...@asu.edu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> >> as
> >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> >> producers and distributors.
> >>
> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> >> issues
> >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> >> control,
> >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries
> >> and
> >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
> >> effective
> >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> >> distributors.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jessica Rosner
> > Media Consultant
> > 224-545-3897 (cell)
> > 212-627-1785 (land line)
> > jessicapros...@gmail.com
> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
> of
> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> > producers and distributors.
> >
>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
> 510-643-8566
> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>
> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
> --Francois Truffaut
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>



-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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