Oh well. These things have been sitting unattended in basements since the late 80s / early 90s. No documentation at this point about leases or even where they came from (studio? distributor? private collector?). Nobody's looking for them (besides me), I can tell you that.
On 6/8/12, elizabeth mcmahon <elizmcma...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Yes, Jessica, educational, documentary, animated, childrens and > independently produced features are typically life of print, as acquired for > public libraries. Studio feature length films, at least in my experience, > such as "Tales Of Hoffman" would qualify, are almost without exception > leased, usually 5 years. And you better hold on to that paper work (as well > as the paperwork for life of print titles), or else you risk dereliction of > duty. David, you never own something that you lease. > > > Elizabeth > > From: Jessica Rosner <maddux2...@gmail.com> >>To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 4:05 PM >>Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal >> >> >>I am confused. Did your library itself buy a print with life of print >> lease? They have not been all that common for a long time. Most studio >> titles were sold for a limited number of years at which time they needed >> to be renewed. In general it is not likely >>that studio feature films had life of print leases, not sure about >> educational titles. >> >> >> >>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dave Dvorchak <ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> >> wrote: >> >>How about the ones we did buy / do own that had leases though? I have no >> meaningful way to prove it. >>>On Jun 8, 2012 3:25 PM, "Jessica Rosner" <maddux2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>The leases were not transferable. The odds of Studio Canal "catching " you >>> are pretty much nil but it would be an illegal show. >>>>I am making some progress in getting you an email but you would be >>>> sending it to someone in France. >>>> >>>> >>>>One long shot would be to contact the Scorsese office or um DENNIS and >>>> try to get in touch with Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell's widow and >>>> Scorsese's long time editor. She has no legal rights to the film but I >>>> suspect if she asked Studio Canal to let you show an IB 16mm they might >>>> be guilted into agreeing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Dvorchak <ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we >>>> bought these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone. >>>> Screen it and hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another >>>> library's collection and they had leases on them? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner <maddux2...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print >>>>> lease. I can tell you that the film has never had >>>>>>"regular" US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell >>>>>> film to track down and screen. However if >>>>>>Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put >>>>>> my feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out >>>>>> of town at the moment. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak >>>>>> <ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening >>>>>> in 2004, there must be some hope. >>>>>>>My print crushes any DVD version out there! >>>>>>>On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner" <maddux2...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to >>>>>>> burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but >>>>>>>>Studio Canal is almost surely one of those if you have to ask you >>>>>>>> can't afford it places. Their standard fee for venues >>>>>>>>to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of >>>>>>>> my customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of >>>>>>>> 16mm print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a >>>>>>>> contact. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak >>>>>>>> <ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print >>>>>>>> of this film, too good not to screen for the public. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights >>>>>>>>> are with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes >>>>>>>>> in the US. They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look >>>>>>>>> like it's in their catalog. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>David Dvorchak >>>>>>>>>Office Manager >>>>>>>>>Providence Community Library >>>>>>>>>ddvorc...@provcomlib.org >>>>>>>>>(401) 467-2700 x2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>>>>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>>>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>>>>>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. >>>>>>>>> It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool >>>>>>>>> for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>>>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>>>>>>> distributors. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>>>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>>>>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>>>>>>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>>>>>>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>>>>>> distributors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>>>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>>>>>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>>>>>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>>>>> distributors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>>>>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>>>>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>>>> distributors. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>David Dvorchak >>>>>Office Manager >>>>>Providence Community Library >>>>>ddvorc...@provcomlib.org >>>>>(401) 467-2700 x2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will >>>>> serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a >>>>> channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, >>>>> and video producers and distributors. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >>>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel >>>> of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>>> producers and distributors. >>>> >>>> >>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel >>> of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >>> >> >>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries >> and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >> effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> >> -- David Dvorchak Office Manager Providence Community Library ddvorc...@provcomlib.org (401) 467-2700 x2 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
