If this were something like "Essential Blue Eye" or "Killing Us Softly 4, 5, 6, 
Infinity" that I could guarantee over 700 annual viewings, then the perpetuity 
cost might be worth it. But we would not have the funds for this kind of 
license. I would get the DVD for ca. $250 and work with the prof. to figure out 
how to watch it. [granted that's complicated with online only classes and 
remote locations of class members] 


Another way to finance might be a course media fee of $x.00 / film, but on our 
campus these technology fees never reach the direct department to which they 
best apply. They end up in general funds. "Your tech fees at work" might just 
as easily be paying an administrator's salary as they are covering the cost of 
lab equipment or screening fees for BIO101 and COMM200. 


Ok, not just to pick on administrators. Could be paying for faculty salary as 
well. 


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----- Original Message -----

From: "Tammy Ravas" <tammy.ra...@mso.umt.edu> 
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:54:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms? 

Hey All, 

Deg, I wouldn't license this film either unless they were willing to negotiate 
things down to more reasonable terms on your end of things. In fact, I'd give 
them specific feedback as to why I wouldn't be doing business with them. 

I once had an instructor who absolutely needed a particular set of films to 
stream for their class. The licensing terms on the filmmaker's end were rather 
complex. For instance, the filmmaker wanted to charge a royalty fee based on 
the number of students enrolled in the class per semester. I was able to 
negotiate a little with the filmmaker on that one since the instructor was 
quite adamant about needing to use it in their class. I then told the 
instructor that the library would license it for that particular semester only 
and, if they needed it for another class, their department was on the hook for 
paying for the licensed material instead. 

Best, 

Tammy 
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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] 
on behalf of Brewer, Michael M - (brewerm) [brew...@email.arizona.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 6:21 PM 
To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> 
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms? 

That model and pricing is unlikely to result in wide usage of the film. We 
would certainly not license it under those terms. 
mb 
On Aug 7, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Deg Farrelly wrote: 

> I know what I have already said (to our licensing agent to pass along to the 
> filmmaker). But I am curious as to my professional colleagues' take on these 
> terms to stream an independent self-distributed documentary film. 
> 
> I am not interested in launching a discussion on the cost of producing a 
> documentary film, etc. I put this out only to address the licensing terms. 
> 
> 
> The licensing agreement for the streaming rights are limited to in-class 
> viewing of the film by the professor teaching the film and their students, or 
> by faculty who are considering teaching the film in other courses. 
> 
> Technical Note: All uploads to the server must be performed in the 4x3 aspect 
> ratio NOT wide-screen 16x9. Any ratio other than 4x3 will be considered 
> alteration of the film. 
> Rates: 
> 
> 2-year streaming = $259 for institutions that already have the DVD 
> $518 for institutions that do not have the DVD, and therefore need a DVD to 
> perform the secure upload. 
> 
> Permanent classroom streaming rights are available at a flat fee of 4x the 
> institutional DVD rate, which is $1,036. For institutions that already have 
> the DVD, that is discounted to 3x the institutional rate, which is $777.00. 
> 
> Use of the film for online and long-distance teaching requires an additional 
> $100 fee for the 2-year rate; if permanent classroom streaming rights are 
> purchased it is a one-time $100 fee. 
> 
> 
> To show my hand, I have recommended that we walk away and not license the 
> video. 
> 
> -deg 
> 
> deg farrelly 
> ShareStream Administrator/Media Librarian 
> Arizona State University Libraries 
> Tempe, AZ 85287-1006 
> 602.332.3103 
> 
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VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors. 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors. 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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