This is great everyone! We’ve actually been in talks with the filmmakers from Audrie and Daisy since before the premiere at Sundance, trying to advocate for Edu. We even got close to arranging something with Netflix after the Originals deal was done, so it will be wonderful to be able to show them this type of demand.
Once something is drafted, I’d be happy to share with the filmmakers directly as well, since they too have been trying to work something out with Netflix to bring A & D to the educational market in a meaningful way (beyond individual and private classroom use). Thanks, Kristin kristin cooney ro*co films educational | Film Platform 80 liberty ship way, suite 8 | sausalito, ca 94965 tel. 415.332.6471 x204 | fax 415.332.6798 kris...@rocofilms.com | www.rocoeducational.com | www.filmplatform.net Now offering a streaming solution for your entire campus. Ask me about it! On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:18 PM, meredith miller <meredithlynnemil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Meghann, > > Of course. I can absolutely facilitate. > > Meredith > > > On Dec 2, 2016 15:24, "Meghann Matwichuk" <mtw...@udel.edu> wrote: > Thanks, all, for the ideas and input! And yes, I do understand that there > are different rights complications depending on whether or not Amazon / > Netflix has produced the content or not. I do realize this is a tall order > and may not (or may not be likely to) result in DVD availability. But from > what I've gathered so far, raising awareness of the fact that these companies > (and the content producers, in cases where they are not the distributors) are > leaving money on the table and prohibiting content from being seen in certain > environments is the first hurdle, so crafting some kind of statement in this > area with a goal towards publicizing it seems like a good place to start. > > I agree that a conference call could be useful to begin the process, and > would be available for one next week or the week after, in case it takes some > time to pull together. Meredith, are you able to facilitate? I could help > with the scheduling by putting together a Doodle poll that folks could use to > indicate interest and availability; just let me know. > An interesting idea from Elizabeth at Bullfrog Films is that we could provide > examples of several of the companies who regularly work with educational > rights (as Mat described) who could serve as models / references for the > process in the case of those film and / or music producers who are simply > unaware and don't know where to start. > > -- > > Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. > Associate Librarian > Coordinator, Film & Video Collection > Morris Library, University of Delaware > 181 S. College Ave. > Newark, DE 19717 > (302) 831-1475 > https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo > > On 12/2/2016 11:37 AM, meredith miller wrote: >> I love this idea! I've been pursuing this on individual basis with both >> Netflix and Amazon. My argument has been that this type of licensing is >> another potential revenue stream that they are not considering. I think >> there is a general misunderstanding about the educational licensing market >> and the value that it has - so I think educating them on who we are and why >> we are important is crucial. >> >> I'm happy to dive into this! I think it would be good to discuss strategy >> first. Is anyone interested in a conference call early next week? >> >> Meredith >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Susan Albrecht <albre...@wabash.edu> wrote: >> I think these are genius ideas from Meghann. I especially like the idea of >> a joint letter from VRT and NMM and having an “all set” statement with many >> signatures ready to attach to an email we’re sending. >> >> >> So who’s the drafter? ;) >> >> >> Susan Albrecht >> >> Graduate Fellowship Advisor >> >> Library Media Acquisitions Manager >> >> Wabash College Lilly Library >> >> 765-361-6216 (acquisitions) / 765-361-6297 (fellowships) >> >> 765-361-6295 fax >> >> albre...@wabash.edu >> >> Twitter: @Wab_Fellowships >> >> www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films >> >> >> ******************************************************************* >> >> "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." --Neil Peart >> >> ******************************************************************* >> >> >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Meghann Matwichuk >> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:59 AM >> >> >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational >> Availability >> >> I like the idea of a petition. Who would we target? Amazon (Prime) and >> Netflix seem to be the primary 'offenders' right now. (But there are >> individual / self-distributors who are also only selling to individuals via >> stream.) >> >> Another possibility -- maybe a joint letter from VRT and NMM? >> >> Meredith and other vendor allies -- what do you think would be a good way >> for those of us interested in making a joint statement to get the attention >> of the right folks? >> >> Alternately, it might be helpful to attach something like the joint letter >> or a statement with a giant gob of signatories when we're all individually >> contacting distributors. Like, keep it on your desktop and just clip it to >> any of these individual emails we might send when we advocate for >> educational distribution. "You might be interested to know that there are >> many who are concerned about this issue, and are interested in purchasing >> hard copies and educational licenses. Please see >> the attached letter." >> >> >> -- >> >> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. >> Associate Librarian >> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection >> Morris Library, University of Delaware >> 181 S. College Ave. >> Newark, DE 19717 >> (302) 831-1475 >> https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo >> >> On 12/2/2016 10:29 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> I’m happy to add my voice. Is there a group letter writing option? >> Change.org post? Blog post option? I may be able to help with the tech for >> this. >> >> >> Once again, Ava DuVernay has gotten the ball rolling on an important topic. >> Why not keep it rolling? >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Laura >> >> >> Laura Jenemann >> >> Media, Film Studies & Dance Librarian >> >> George Mason University Libraries >> >> Email: ljene...@gmu.edu >> >> Phone: 703-993-7593 >> >> >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Wochna, Lorraine >> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:05 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational >> Availability >> >> >> Meghann, >> >> Thanks so much for such a thorough response. >> >> Yes, I agree and will challenge these distributors as well! >> >> Best, >> >> lorraine >> >> >> >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Meghann Matwichuk >> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:17 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational >> Availability >> >> >> Thanks for passing this along, Lorraine!! This is exciting! Although, it >> doesn't quite solve the problem of having a physical copy in our collection, >> or a streaming version to which we can provide access for our patrons who >> may not have a Netflix account. I was just having a conversation about this >> (films produced by streaming services without any means for libraries to >> purchase hard copies or license) with the lovely Meredith Miller not a few >> hours ago, and just a week or two ago had an exchange with the distributors >> of the Netflix film Audrie and Daisy. It went as follows: >> >> Me: "Greetings, I am a media librarian at the University of Delaware >> Library. One of UD's student groups will be hosting a film screening of >> Audrie & Daisy soon, and we've already had requests that we add the film to >> our Library's collection so that it can be used in classes and made >> available for students to watch for research. Are there any plans to make >> Audrie & Daisy available for purchase on DVD soon, or via some other >> mechanism that allows institutional access? I've personally watched the >> film via my own Netflix account, and I know it would be a great resource for >> our faculty and students. Thank you!" >> >> Carla @ Filmsprout: "Thanks so much for your note, and we're thrilled to >> hear that the Library is interested in the film. I'm so sorry, but currently >> there aren't plans to make the film available for institutional purchase >> because the film is already available for individual and private classroom >> use via the Netflix service. However, I'd be glad to let you know if >> anything changes!" >> >> Me: "Institutions are not able to subscribe to Netflix, so unfortunately we >> can't offer private classroom use via the Netflix service. I hope that this >> may change in the near future, as we've been unable to provide equitable >> access to some excellent programming due to the models put forth by Amazon >> Prime, Netflix, etc. Please do let me know if anything should change with >> 'Audrie & Daisy'." >> >> Carla: "Thank you for your note, and I hear you. I've shared your feedback >> with my team, and I will absolutely let you know if anything changes around >> institutional licensing for the film." >> >> Several of us (myself, Lorraine, and a few others who may or may not be on >> VideoLib?) who attended National Media Market in October discussed this very >> thing over lunch one afternoon -- the need to advocate and raise awareness >> amongst the producers of films that fit into this growing category. Towards >> that end, I'd encourage everyone to take the extra time to contact producers >> of films like 13th, Audrie & Daisy, Transparent, etc. when your students / >> instructors request them to help the producers understand the need for an >> educational distribution model that would allow us to provide access to >> these important films. Clearly, Ms. DuVernay and the Filmsprout folks >> intend for these documentaries to be widely seen and utilized in educational >> settings -- they need to hear from us that we share that mission and need >> options to pay them for / license their content. >> >> Best, >> >> -- >> >> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. >> Associate Librarian >> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection >> Morris Library, University of Delaware >> 181 S. College Ave. >> Newark, DE 19717 >> (302) 831-1475 >> https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors.
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
