Howard,

I agree with everything you said, totally.  That is exactly my practice 
with fret placement..... slightly diminish the 2nd & 4th frets, for 
renaissance tuning.

Well stated!

ed


At 12:30 PM 3/29/2006 -0800, Howard Posner wrote:
>Monica Hall wrote:
>
> > I have got these two CDs of baroque guitar music to review.  One of
> > them says that the instrument is tuned to A=415 in mean-tone
> > temperament; the other to A = 440 in mean tone temperament.  No more
> > information than that is given in the notes, but one of the CDs has 2
> > photos of the artists and it seems that this refinement is achieved by
> > putting strips of something - cardboard? plastic?! partly under
> > sections of some of the frets.  The frets themselves look very thick
> > and as if they were of a single thick strand of whatever - gut? nylon?
> > rather than tied in a loop like I do mine.
>
> > As far as I'm aware the guitar was usually tuned to a sort of equal
> > temperament - at least that is what Doisi de Velasco says and how else
> > would they have been able to play in the 12 different major and minor
> > keys - as they were wont to do?   But I do vaguely remember also
> > reading somewhere that lutenists sometimes did something like this
> > and even that there was a name for the practice.
>
>This discussion seems to have gotten sidetracked, and indeed diverted
>to another list.  Tuning a fretted instrument in a basic functional
>meantone is not difficult: place the second and fourth frets closer to
>the nut than they would be in equal temperament, and you've done most
>of the job.  Most of the thirds of major chords fall on those frets,
>and by shortening them you get thirds that are closer to pure, and much
>more consonant and at rest than equally tempered thirds.  The exact
>process of fret placement is a season-to-taste process, not only
>because different setups satisfy different ears, but because the
>imprecisions inherent in fretting a string make it more art than
>science.  Tastini are not necessary.   Whether you want them or not
>depends on how much weirdness you want when the tonality goes far
>afield.  Unusual keys do not necessarily require equal temperament.
>
>HP
>
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