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From: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: "Lutelist" <l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Angelloe (Bartolotti?) -- cross post
A quick re-read of Webber's article - there is a reference to Whitelocke's
chaplain and musical director in Sweden - Nathaniel Ingelo - who took some
of Benjamin Roger's music to Sweden so it seems likely that "Angelloe"
would be Ingelo rather than Bartolotti.
One day I may get to Oxford - the main reason for wanting to look at the
mss. was to see if there is any indication that the guitar took part in
the accompaniment - but there are only 24 hours in the day and a lot of
other things to do in them.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "Lutelist" <l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:37 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Angelloe (Bartolotti?) -- cross post
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Angelloe (Bartolotti?) -- cross post
Well - it is interesting that you should mention this. You can access
the
catalogue of Christchurch Oxford on line where you will find a detailed
description of the manuscript. - it is Ms. Mus.377. It includes a
reference to an article which
I duly obtained a copy of and read -
Geoffrey Webber, 'Italian Music at the Court of Queen Christina: Christ
Church, Oxford, Mus. MS 377 and the Visit of Vincenzo Albrici's Italian
Ensemble, 1652-54', Svensk Tidskrift för Musikforskning, 1993:2, pp.
47-53. (That's why I asked you for the earlier article)
I can't give all the details but he suggests that the ms. may have been
given to Whitlocke - who entertained the Italian musicans whilst he was
in
Stockholm - and that he brought it to England. I suppose Mr. Angelloe
could be Bartolotti.
I have been meaning to go to Oxford to have a look at the ms. but
haven't got around to it yet.
I'd like to know where to access the full entry for the Rogers.
Best
Monica
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From: "Mjos & Larson" <rockype...@earthlink.net>
To: <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:41 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Angelloe (Bartolotti?) -- cross post
(Also posted to the Lute List)
While browsing in the Duben database today I came across an entry for
a Suite by Benjamin Rogers that mentioned a "mr Angelloe".
Although the Uppsala University website suggests this referred to a
patron of Rogers, I wondered if it might just as possibly refer to
Bartolotti.
James Tyler lists a cantata manuscript in Oxford (GB-Och MS 377) that
is believed to have belonged to Bartolotti. (TGAIM footnote on page 69)
Perhaps there was an exchange of music between the English musicians
that travelled with Bulstrode Whitelocke and the Italian group in
Stockholm which included Bartolotti.
-- R
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http://www.musik.uu.se/duben/presentationSource.php?Select_Dnr!65
UUB:
imhs 005:013b
Composer:
Rogers,Benjamin,1614-1698
Title:
Suite
Full title:
In f faut
Scoring:
treble2 tenor b
Date:
1651x
Source comments:
On imhs 5:13a, treble 2: paujn: "ffor mr Angelloe these" -- mr
Angelloe probably refers to Nathaniel Ingelo, patron to Rogers and
member of Whitelockes embassy to Sweden 1653-54. The two mentioned
suites by Rogers that were presented to Queen Christina (Holman 1984)
are likely identical to imhs 5:13a and 5:13b./KHE
"ffor mr Angelloe these" can be seen here:
http://www.musik.uu.se/duben/displayFacsimile.php?
Select_Path=imhs005,013a_p02_02v.jpg
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