Roman
An email I sent you bounced back after a few days.
Stuart
To add to further confusion:
The PLATAN is Ukrainian (as well as Russian) for planetree,
and it is certainly not any kind of maple (YAVIR in Ukrainian, KLJON
in Russian).
Botanical BS aside:
I have expereimented with Stuart on the implementation of
http://www.torban.org/images/odna/odna-ghora.pdf
http://www.torban.org/images/odna/odna-ghora.mp3
on the Rooshian Geetar,
and it worked exceedingly well!
I will send a standard notation score to any interested 7string player.
RT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <brai...@osu.edu>
To: "'Roman Turovsky'" <r.turov...@verizon.net>; "'vihuela list'"
<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: some 19th century seven-string guitar pieces
Odd. Here are some lute-distant periphera:
I had always known of plane tree as an English term for trees of the same
taxonomic grouping as North American sycamore (i.e., of the genus
*Platanus*). All trees of the genus *Acer* are technically maples,
although
common names don't always reflect that (boxelder is another fine
example).
European or "great" maple is very often called "sycamore" and, as
Alexander
points out, is *Acer pseudoplatanus* (or, in other words, the
"false-plane
tree maple"). Further demonstrating the problems with common names, I
believe "plane" is also sometimes applied to the maple *A.
pseudoplatanus*
in the UK because of superficially similar morphologies.
*Platanus* spp. are usually associated with wet lowlands and stream banks
where I don't believe *Acer pseudoplatanus* necessarily is. However, the
latter species (i.e., the maple *A. pseudoplatanus*) is considered very
tolerant of broad environmental conditions.
So, depending upon where you are and with whom you are speaking, "plane
tree" and "sycamore" can be applied somewhat interchangeably to *Acer
pseudoplatanus* and in general to *Platanus* spp. in spite of the fact
that
those taxa aren't particularly closely related.
Enjoy!
Eugene
-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of Roman Turovsky
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:56 PM
To: vihuela list
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: some 19th century seven-string guitar pieces
My dictionary has maple as European, sycamore as Asian, and planetree as
American......
WHichever it is - the tree in question has a large symbolic value,
and there is even one Yavor Genov, a young Bulgarian lute-player!
RT
From: "Alexander Batov" <alexander.ba...@vihuelademano.com>
Well, the botanical name for Ukrainian 'Явір' (the way it appears in the
song title) is 'Acer pseudoplatanus' which is the same that is used to
define 'Sycamore' or 'Sycamore Maple'. Acer pseudoplatanus is native
both to central Europe (including Ukraine) and West Asia.
So I suppose either of the two words (without getting excessively
botanical :)) would be fine for this song title. I personally prefer
Sycamore.
AB
On 18/04/2010 16:34, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>> 2) "There stays a sycamore tree over the water"
> European Maple rather. Sycamore is an Asia Minor variety.
> RT
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