Well to date I have only read half the introduction.


   As far as I can see from a quick look, the chords for "Tirinto mio" are
   taken from Stefani and a little known book by Millioni (not the guitar
   tutors of 1627)  which includes lyrics only with alfabeto.  He is
   comparing the two.



   But until I have read it all I must reserve judgement.



   Monica





   ----- Original Message -----

   From: [1]Martyn Hodgson

   To: [2]Monica Hall

   Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:11 AM

   Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: alfabeto

   As you said, I just had to be patient. But at 311 pages it took 15mins
   whereas the facsimile of three Lully operas (at around 200) I did a
   short time before only took 3!

   It certainly looks interesting with some good pics but from a brief
   scan I can't see if it tells us much that isn't already generally
   acknowledged.  But it's good to have such a seemingly comprhensive (?)
   work. I might see if some of the automatic translators come up with
   something which can be used as a basis for undertanding the text.

   He seems to start with intabulations for lute of vocal compositions - I
   suppose making some sort of link with the invention of alfabeto as a
   convenient shorthand but , since my French is not good, I can't be
   sure.

   However, here he does miss an important element : he makes no mention
   of the Moulinie guitar settings (at least nothing in the Figs or index)
   which, in my view, present a better case for the invention of a
   shorthand since Moulinie has often to intabulate succesive identical
   chords many times and such an example would clearly well illustrate the
   advantages of a shorthand notation to represent common chords (and to
   include strum direction signs).

   I've not been able to wade through much of it but in my quick skim
   picked out a few things which seem to me debatable (tho he might
   explain all somewhere else). For example : Fig. Cxxix : Transcription
   de << Tirinto mio >> de Stefani 1620, p. 4, avec les accords de
   Millioni 1627. In this he puts in the chords (how/from which source? )
   and compares with a contemporary guitar alfabeto version I think (?) to
   show that the alfabeto chords don't strictly follow every twist and
   turn of the harmony.  But I disagree with the chords he chooses  - I
   suspect that even at this date embryonic tonalism would have meant the
   second chord he thinks of as Am would have probably been a first
   inversion F (leading to the following Bb chord). Though my French is so
   rusty that I can't be sure this isn't covered.
     But a work worthy of some effort on my part I think............. maybe
   for dark winter evenings
     Thanks for passing it on   Martyn
   --- On Sat, 2/7/11, Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

     From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
     Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: alfabeto
     To: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
     Date: Saturday, 2 July, 2011, 17:04

   I recieved this information from Aidan O'Donnell about his dissertation
   on alfabeto songs if anyone is interested.   Haven't read myself
   yet.   It is in French.
   Regards
   Monica
   Just a quick email to say that my alfabeto PhD is online at
   >
   > [3]http://athirdfloorproduction.com/alfabeto/
   >
   > It's in French, but there's a good deal on concordances and quite a
   > few sources in images.
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