Very nice... I would love to see this ms some day. Your little guitar
sounds very nice.
As for tuning the mandore, I believe the Chancy ms has three different
tunings. His ms seems to be for a plectrum -- well, I was taught that
he marks up and down strokes, so that would indicate. He doesn't give
absolute pitches, he just tunes to the frets. But the tunings are
(from memory):
--h-------- D
--a--f----- A
-----a--f-- D
--------a-- G
--h-------- D
--a--f----- A
-----a--h-- D
--------a-- A
--h-------- D
--a--f----- A
-----a--e-- D
--------a-- F#
The last one is pretty interesting, for the second suite. But I
haven't managed to pull the whole suite together yet.
Drat... I hope I haven't stuck my foot into it -- I need to pull the
ms out of storage and verify that these really are the tunings he has.
Between work and the guitar, I'm afraid my poor mandore has
languished. As have my powers of memory.
cud
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From: Stuart Walsh <s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
To: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: Vihuelalist <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: 3 short pieces from the Ulm MS for mandore
On 08/01/2012 12:48, Monica Hall wrote:
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>> The Scottish, Skene mandore MS is more well known but the Ulm MS of
French mandore music (of the same time) is very good too. And the
pieces are much more carefully notated.
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>> Here are a couple of courantes and a gavotte - played on a very
small guitar with a string length of 37 cms. Perhaps there were at
least two sizes of mandore: the really tiny (c. 30cm string length),
four-course mandore (some Ulm stuff, Chancy) , played with a plectrum
and a slightly larger, five course instrument ((Skene, Ulm, Gallot)
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnC0b9w8QyU
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>> Stuart
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> Very nice but what is mandore tuning in this context?
Thanks. I don't know what you mean 'context'? I think the tuning of the
mandore at the time of its popularity was more or less fixed... apart
from the first course. So a four-course mandore was 5-4-5 (e.g.:
g-d-g-d) and a five-course instrument was 4-5-4-5 (e.g.: d-g-d-g-d). Of
course the actual pitch might be different. But on either four- or
five-course instruments the top course could be re-tuned: e.g. a tone
lower. But the bottom courses were not re-tuned.
So the mandore tuning is quite different from the mandolino tuning in
fourths (but not that that difference makes it a different instrument).
Stuart
Stuart
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> Monica
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