I find that the problem is that I installed gVim the first time and I was already thinking about how making it highlight the codes, highlight errors, auto complete control structures, tags and functions...
I'm trying to find out if there is a way to make vim show tips automatically, tips about function parameters, classes, method... I wanna be a guru in a blink of eyes :P H-10 wrote: > > On Oct 20, 2006, at 1:39 AM, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: > >> vim wrote: >>> Hi everobody, >>> I recently had a very similar conversation with three guys on #vim >>> (irc.freenode.net). >>> Basicaly, there is two official help for Vim: >>> - the vimtutor >>> - :help >>> And that's basically it. >>> :help being your Vim dictionnary/encyclopedia/bible, it's very >>> complete and has everything in it but it's hardcore to read and >>> understand. Unfortunately, it's not easy at all to go through and >>> to 'get' the way it works. >>> I believe that there is room between vimtutor and :help to have >>> some beginner to intermediate tutorial that will take you by the >>> hand and bring you through the Vim universe in a nice and easy >>> way. Let's not forget (especially for the Vim gurus out there) >>> that Vim is very powerful but because of that it can be very hard >>> to understand sometimes or even to adapt to it and make it your >>> favourite text editor. >>> Of course Google is your friend but the sheer ammount of tutorials >>> out there can easily make you go left, right and center and >>> basically not teach you anything useful but some 'tips and tricks' >>> that is cool but won't make you code faster or deeply understand Vim. >>> So I think that there is room for some official tutorial after the >>> vimtutor and before a perfect use of the ultimate :help. The >>> tutorial will totally avoid to be a scientific precision on how-to- >>> exactly-define-terms-the-best-way-possible-using-the-less-words- >>> possible. The tutorial should be well written and take time to >>> explain things to novice in simple words. The idea is to bring >>> people to the Vim highway efficiently. Such a basic tutorial >>> could _also_ help novices to avoid asking questions that will make >>> any Vim guru feel like saying: 'RTFM' >>> As an example, here are some topics proposed: >>> Non-technical: >>> - Phylosophy behind Vim >>> Where you would learn why it will help you to be faster in your >>> everyday coding and what the user has to understand to truely >>> enjoy Vim (talk about the need to touch-type to be truely >>> efficient for instance) >>> - Phylosophy behind the three modes (Normal, Visual, Insert) >>> - Phylosophy behind the command line mode >>> - Differences between Vi and Vim >>> - Explain the folder structure and how the various config files work >>> - Differences between Vim on Windows, Mac, Linux, Unix and console >>> use >>> - Configure once, use everywhere (or how to adapt your config to a >>> different platform) >>> - etc. >>> Technical: >>> - The big apple : Think different! >>> Where you would learn that you need to think gg instead of >>> 'CTRL-home' or xp to invert the order of two letters etc. This >>> could have a list of standard keyboard shortcuts mapped to a list >>> of Vim shortcuts. >>> - Basics of Vim variables (:set :let etc.) >>> - My first function : hello world! >>> - Basic understanding of filetypes >>> - Basic folding >>> - Basics of syntax highlighting >>> - Basic mappings & abbreviations >>> - etc. >>> Help! I need somebody >>> - Phylosophy behind the :help command: how to 'think' :help >>> - How to use :help efficiently >>> - Good references to go one step further >>> - etc. >>> Of course, this is only a guide of what would be useful to a >>> beginner but I firmy believe that some official tutorial is >>> needed. Maybe this could be achieved by doing a 'best off' the >>> various tutorials already available. >>> Let me know what you think of this, >>> Laurent >> >> I think that between the tutor and help, tere are also the vimFAQ >> and vimtips (both at vim-online). >> >> You seem to have interesting ideas. Maybe you should discuss them >> with the FAQ maintainer. >> >> >> Best regards, >> Tony. > Hi, > > As one of the potential beneficiaries of the proposed document, I'd > like to add that what I have a hard time finding are the 'philosophy' > items mentioned in the proposal. I'd like to get a better > understanding of the way Vim views text, what the modes are for, > etc. i.e. the bigger picture. > > I find :help to be excellent when I know what question to ask, but > often lack the context to know where best to look. Reading this list > helps fill in the concepts in an ad hoc sort of way, but a more > systematic exposition would be nice. > > HTH, Hal > > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fighting-with-comments-tf2467964.html#a6924420 Sent from the Vim - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
