Mr. Fox,

On 8월4일, 오전12시04분, "Edward L. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Shawn Y. Kim,
>
> (Cross-posting to vim-multibytes)
>
> Thanks for your reply!

My pleasure ;-)

>
> On 8/3/07, Shawn Y. Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > [...]
> > I've also been through the same what you're going through.
>
> > There could be a couple of solutions :
>
> > 1. You could just use your xim. Try to configure vim with these
> > options :
> >   --enable-xim --enable-gui=gtk2 --enable-multibyte --enable-multilang
> > 2. If you really hate XIMs like SCIM and nabi,
> > 2-1. you coluld choose to use gtk instead of gtk2
> >   --enable-hangulinput --enable-gui=gtk --enable-multibyte --enable-
> > multilang --enable-xim=no --enable-fontset
> > 2-2. If you want to use the built-in hangulinput module with GTK2,
> > there's a way. I'm gonna describe how to do that later.
>
> > Above, I can see Mr.Fox has posted a solution about this. Frankly, I
> > didn't really tried that one out.
>
> In fact as Um. Kiwon reported, my patch doesn't work at all. :-(
>
> I don't actually know how many Vimmers in Korean are still using the
> Hangul automata. In my impression, I think every Asian user is using
> at least one Input Method Engine (IME). If so, the Hangul automata may
> not be necessary at all. Or if possible, we could use keymap to
> simulate the Hangul automata.

OK, there's no statistical report, yet ;-)
Sure, it's true that every Asian user's using at least one IME.
As far as I'm concerned, there also are many users who just can't use
one.
It could be because they don't have root privilege and their system
administrators just
do not even want to bother paying much attention to stuffs like IME or
incompetent :-(

Bottom line.
As far as I'm concerned, the hangulinput feature needs to be at least
kept as it is now.

>
>
>
> > I, however, got another one, though it has a "critical" limitation.
> > Here it is:
>
> > shawn.ygdrasil:~/work/vim7/src$ svn diff feature.h
> > Index: feature.h
> > ===================================================================
> > --- feature.h   (revision 392)
> > +++ feature.h   (working copy)
> > @@ -674,7 +674,10 @@
> >                                          * turn to english mode
> >                                          */
> >  # if !defined(FEAT_XFONTSET) && defined(HAVE_X11)
> > -#  define FEAT_XFONTSET                        /* Hangul input
> > requires xfontset */
> > +# if !defined(HAVE_GTK2)
> > +#  define FEAT_XFONTSET                        /* Hangul input
> > requires xfontset
> > +                                           only if not featured with
> > gtk2 */
> > +#endif
> >  # endif
> >  # if defined(FEAT_XIM) && !defined(LINT)
> >         Error: You should select only ONE of XIM and HANGUL INPUT
> > shawn.ygdrasil:~/work/vim7/src$
>
> > The one thing that may be bothering you when you use this patch is
> > that you HAVE TO always use euc-kr as your encoding.
> > If the locale settings of your machine is UTF-8, you've gotta add
> > these lines to your .vimrc file :
>
> > set encoding=euc-kr
> > set fileencoding=utf-8
>
> Um, it seems that with these settings, I will not be able to edit
> files in other CJK languages...
>
> > As to the details of encoding and fileencoding, refer to the vim help
> > page.
>
> > Except for that, it works great with GTK+2 with alti-aliased fonts,
> > easy to set font, huh?
> > But, personally, I prefer to use GTK+1.2 with rasterized, highly-
> > optimized fonts like sun-gothic + fixed combination.
>
> By the way, I guess that Gothic was a Japanese font... Three widely
> used Korean fonts are named "BatangChe", "DotumChe", "Gulim" and
> "GulimChe". Maybe I am wrong...

Yes, that is true, Gulim or GulimChe are widely appreciated as they
are system fonts in the Windows OSs.
But the landscape has been changed as "Un-Gothic" font has become
available.
Almost every recent linux distribution use "Un-Gothic" (I am not sure
the name is correctly spelled out :-(  ).
Moreover, GulimChe, Gulim and BatangChe are commercial fonts :-(
As to sun-gothic font, yes it is also a commercial font that comes
with Sun microsystem's openwin.
IMHO, sun-gothic font is the most readable hangul "bitmap" font.

>
>
>
> > Any way, good look.
>
> > BRGD.
> > Shawn from Seoul ;-)
>
> Shalom,
>
> Edward L. Fox

Regards,
Shawn Y. Kim.


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