Christian Brabandt wrote:

> Hi Gary!
> 
> On Di, 19 Mär 2013, Gary Johnson wrote:
> 
> > On 2013-03-19, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > > On Tue, March 19, 2013 17:43, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > > > On 2013-03-19, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, March 15, 2013 20:29, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Should the function of "!" in :normal and of "nore" in mappings be
> > > >> > extended to also ignore any non-default settings of 'cedit'?
> > > >>
> > > >> I think, plugin writers should take care of properly escaping
> > > >> the cedit key by themselves. That is, if they issue a search like this
> > > >> :exe "norm! /"
> > > >> they need to take care to replace the cedit key by Ctrl-V cedit key.
> > > >
> > > > But the writer in this case was not trying to use the cedit key--he
> > > > was innocently using another key (<Esc>) that I had chosen to be the
> > > > cedit key.
> > > 
> > > I don't see, how this is different from other settings that might
> > > interfer plugins (e.g. 'gdefault', 'magic', 'remap', 'ed').
> > 
> > That's why I suggested that the plugin function save the current
> > 'cedit' setting, set the default, do the work of the function, then
> > restore the original setting before returning.
> > 
> > > Say you don't want to use the search() function,
> > > but want to use
> > > :exe variable
> > > with variable being something like 'norm! /....<Esc>'
> > > 
> > > There shouldn't be a problem with first substituting that variable by
> > > :let variable = substitute(variable, &cedit, '^V'.&cedit, 'g')
> > > where ^V is the literal Ctrl-V (and not the 2 distinct characters ^ and V)
> > 
> > Maybe I'm just being thick this morning--haven't even finished my
> > first coffee--but I don't think you understand the problem.  The
> > 'cedit' key is used to open the command-line window.  The plugin
> > writer doesn't want to open the command-line window.  The plugin
> > writer doesn't even care that command-line window exists.  All he
> > wants to do is execute a normal-mode command that ends with an
> > <Esc>,
> > 
> >      exe 'norm! /\%'.leftcol."v\<Esc>"
> > 
> > which :help says should behave as follows in that context:
> > 
> >     <Esc>       When typed and 'x' not present in 'cpoptions', quit
> >                 Command-line mode without executing.  In macros or
> >                 when 'x' present in 'cpoptions', start entered command.
> > 
> > Instead of getting that documented behavior, the normal-mode command
> > is interpreting that <Esc> as the cedit key and entering the
> > command-line window.  The plugin writer just wants to execute his
> > command.  I don't see any way to escape that <Esc> to make it do
> > what :help says it does and not enter the command-line window when
> > 'cedit' is set to <Esc>.
> > 
> > I think if the &cedit character was escaped with ^V as you
> > suggested, that would place a literal &cedit in the text, which is
> > not what the plugin writer wants, either.
> > 
> > The only solution I see, without modifying Vim as I suggested, is to
> > save and restore 'cedit' as I also suggested.
> 
> Here is a patch, that makes :norm! ignore the cedit key, while :norm 
> behaves as is.

Thanks.  Looks like some stuff was left behind, commented with //.

The logic is a bit hard to follow, perhaps typebuf_norm_remap() should
only check for remapping and ex_normal_busy is checked separately?


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