Hello Tony,

Thanks for the response.

In insert my comments inline:

On Feb 27, 9:31 pm, Tony Mechelynck <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 27/02/09 19:20, Kenneth Reid Beesley wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm using gvim 7.2 on OS X 10.5.6.
>
> > When using gvim and keymaps, one can allegedly define mappings using
> > Alt-modified keys using the<A-x>  syntax.
>
> > However, the gvim GUI normally uses Alt-modified keystrokes, so to
> > avoid having the gvim GUI intercept the Alt-modified keystrokes, one
> > needs to specify
>
> > set guioptions-=m
>
> > Do I assume correctly that   'set guioptions-=m' should appear
> > in .vimrc or .gvimrc?  I've got it in my .gvimrc file, but
>
> > " retroflex
> > <A-s>  <char-0x0282>
> > <A-z>  <char-0x0290>
> > <A-r>  <char-0x027D>
>
> > don't work for me.   It seems like they're still being caught as
> > commands by the GUI.  The Cntrl-modified syntax (e.g.<C-s>) works fine.
>
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Ken
>
> To define those mappings, you should first have made sure that
> 'encoding' has already been set to UTF-8 if the current Vim version
> supports it. How to do so can be explained, but it falls outside the
> scope of the present reply.

KRB:   My system locale and the (g)vim encoding are UTF-8.


> Then you should define them has follows:
>
> if has('multi_byte')
>         map     <A-s>     <Char-0x0282>
>         "  LATIN SMALL LETTER S WITH HOOK
>
>         map     <A-z>     <Char-0x0290>
>         "  LATIN SMALL LETTER Z WITH RETROFLEX HOOK
>
>         map     <A-r>     <Char-0x027D>
>         "  LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH TAIL
> endif
>
> Notes:
> - It might be better to define these in a keymap,

KRB:  They are, in fact, in a keymap, namely my own

~/.vim/keymap/hopi-postfix_utf-8.vim

I have created a number of such keymaps, all UTF-8, for Hopi
orthography/IPA, for English IPA, for Shavian and Deseret Alphabet,
and they work perfectly except for Alt-modified (<Alt-whatever>)
mappings.
If I change the <A-s>, <A-z> and <A-r> inputs to Cntl inputs (<C-s>,
<C-z> and <C-r>, respectively) then they work perfectly.

> or by using lmap
> rather than map. The keymap, if used, should have utf-8 in its name, for
> instance keymap/imaginarylanguage_utf-8.vim. In a keymap, after the
> "loadkeymap" line, the lines you wrote are correct, but they would
> benefit by a comment at the end.
> - Instead of :map, you might want :map!, :imap, etc., see ":help
> map-overview"
> - In Vim, Alt-r, Alt-s, Alt-z are respectively synonymous with ò LATIN
> SMALL LETTER O WITH GRAVE, ó LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH ACUTE, and ú
> LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH ACUTE, so if you need these it's a bad idea to
> use Alt-r Alt-s and Alt-z for the {lhs} of a mapping except in a keymap
> or lmap (which can be turned on and off at any moment).

KRB:  The same hopi-postfix keymap has entries for equivalent letters,
but using
Combining Diacritical Marks, and using input sequences that make sense
to me, e.g.

loadkeymap
a`  a<char-0x0300>  " a followed by combining grave accent
e`  e<char-0x0300>
i`  i<char-0x0300>
o`  o<char-0x0300>
u`  u<char-0x0300>

a/  a<char-0x0301>  " a followed by combining acute accent
e/  e<char-0x0301>
i/  i<char-0x0301>
o/  o<char-0x0301>
u/  u<char-0x0301>

a^  a<char-0x0302>  " a followed by combining circumflex accent
e^  e<char-0x0302>
i^  i<char-0x0302>
o^  o<char-0x0302>
u^  u<char-0x0302>

o"  o<char-0x0308>  " o followed by combinine diaeresis

o"` o<char-0x0308><char-0x0300>  " o followed by combining diaeresis
and grave
o"/ o<char-0x0308><char-0x0301>
o"^ o<char-0x0308><char-0x0302>

etc.

They all work perfectly, as do the following three

" retroflex
<C-s> <char-0x0282>  " LATIN SMALL LETTER S WITH HOOK
<C-z> <char-0x0290>  " LATIN SMALL LETTER Z WITH RETROFLEX HOOK
<C-r> <char-0x027D>  " LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH TAIL

But if I change these last three to <A-s>, <A-z> and <A-r> (which is
what I really want), they don't work, even though I have
set guioptions-=m

in my .gvimrc.

Thanks for your help,

Ken


>
> Best regards,
> Tony.
> --
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