Not even Pro Tools does it. Well, not with anything that's accessible, anyway.

If you're trying to do audio editing on the Mac, anything besides Pro Tools is 
just going to give you the bare minimum of accessible features. GarageBand and 
Amadeus don't do regions/playlists, we can't access individual clips at all in 
them for clip-based editing, you don't have automation, and all sorts of other 
limitations that make GarageBand in to a Fischer Price DAW.

If you're trying to sequence music, which it sounds like you are, then, again, 
Pro Tools is probably your best bet, as at least you can edit what you've 
recorded. However, Pro Tools, for blind people, is still lacking most of the 
tools that you need for modern sequence-based production. If you're trying to 
build your own drum kits, chop samples, stretch or pitch shift audio in 
real-time, use pattern-based sequencing, manually edit vocals 
(pitch/scoops/timing/vibrato/etc, )etc then there is nothing on the Mac now 
that can do any of that with VoiceOver. If you want to do this stuff, you must 
get a Windows computer with Sonar. Even if you get Pro Tools, the software 
instruments are way below the quality of what is in GarageBand or Logic.

I'm glad that we are starting to get new options for creating music on the Mac, 
but, every few days, I read you posting on the list about something else that 
you're wanting to know if GarageBand will do. In most cases, the answer is 
either that it can't do it at all, or that it can't do it with VoiceOver. With 
all sincerity, I suggest that, if you're really serious about being able to 
accomplish these tasks, that you look in to another DAW. GarageBand, even 
though it has great instruments and effects included by default, is little more 
than a computerized tape recorder right now for VoiceOver users. You can't edit 
what you've recorded, as compared to what is possible with Pro Tools, Sonar, 
Reaper, etc. You also get only the basic instruments, effects, and loops, and 
don't have access to any advanced production tools. Apple wants you to buy 
Logic for those tools, which you, as a blind guy, can't use. The people that 
say GarageBand is great have very low requirements from their DAW. That's fine, 
as long as it does what they need. It shouldn't be forgotten, though, that 
GarageBand is designed, on purpose to present you with a brick wall at some 
point in terms of features so that you'll upgrade to Logic. Continuing to 
struggle with GarageBand sounds like beating your head against a wall.

You can either spend $400 (the cost of Pro Tools MPowered plus an audio 
interface), and be able to use Pro Tools, or you can get BootCamp going and run 
Reaper (free), or Sonar (from $300 with Sonar Studio and the free JSonar 
scripts, up to $800 or so for Sonar Producer and the CakeTalking scripts). You 
also need Jaws to use Sonar.

Pro Tools can be cheap, but learning it will be profoundly difficult. There is 
no manual/tutorial that explains how to do anything with VoiceOver. There is no 
online help system with instant help with what you're doing at the moment. 
VoiceOver reads most things. There is incredible keyboard support for doing 
everything. Some effects and software instruments work, but you can't edit 
everything in them, and some are completely inaccessible.

Reaper is practically free. You must run Windows, though. It similarly has 
practically no info about how to do anything with it. It does have a manual 
that you can read, but not much help. A lot of blind people are using it. 
Unlike the other DAWs, though, it comes with practically no instruments. That 
is expected. They're not charging you anything, so how can they afford to give 
you large sample libraries and loops?

Sonar is the most accessible DAW right now on any platform. It is not industry 
standard like Pro Tools, but it is the only DAW where a blind person can access 
everything from detailed MIDI event editing, to the pattern-based sequencer, to 
loop construction, to vocal editing, to surround sound mixing, and beyond. It 
has a great manual that has context-sensitive access. That means, you can press 
help in any dialog and go to the page of the manual that explains how that area 
of Sonar works. You need Jaws scripts to make it talk. The free ones are, well, 
free, but a bit cryptic. In many cases you need to puzzle through the Sonar 
manual to figure out how something that is normally accomplished with the mouse 
can be accomplished with the keyboard and/or scripts. CakeTalking is a 
commercial script system, but, among other features, comes with a 
tutorial-style manual that is pretty much a manual for using Sonar, as a blind 
guy, with the scripts. The drawback, though, is that it will cost a good bit of 
money. You really need the $500 producer version, the CakeTalking system is 
almost another $300, and you'll need a dedicated audio interface that will cost 
at least another $150 or so. There is finally the cost of Jaws, if you don't 
already own it.

Just sounds like GarageBand is entirely inappropriate for what you're trying to 
do. Maybe another DAW will suit you better.

Good luck with your efforts.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of chad baker
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [vimacaudio] re-chopping samples in garage band

Hi dave i'm trying to bring in a drum loop then slice it to different keys i 
don't think there's no solution just curious.
i know logic can do it but not accessible.

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