--- "J.S. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I juggle. There's a GREAT use for > them......(hee hee) Beware the killer Zip disk. Sometimes they can get a little tear on the edge. That will RIP THE HEADS OFF almost any Zip drive it's inserted into. :P I had a customer who trashed three ATAPI Zip internal drives with a selection of bad Zip disks. Once I accidentially stuck one into my 5.25" internal* SCSI Zip drive and when I heard *THUNK* *THUNK* I just hit the power switch on the PC. Fortunately the original SCSI Zip 100 internal must be more robust than the others because it survived the KILLER DISK. :) *Yes, 5.25" The drive mechanisim itself is 3.5" but the circuit board etc is bigger than the drive so it fills a whole 5.25" bay. Later internal SCSI, IDE and ATAPI drives are normal 3.5" size. I rather like MO drives over the Zip because it's impossible for the disk and drive to destroy each other. Let's hear it for zero contact data transfer! Also unlike the Zip, MO is fast enough to play video from. P.S. To tell an IDE from an ATAPI Zip is easy. IDE ones have a black eject button with the activity light beside the button. They also have an emergency eject pull rod at the upper left. ATAPI ones have a clear eject button with the light behind it. The emergency eject hole is inconveniently located on the rear of the drive. :P IIRC, the internal 3.5" SCSI is configured similar to the IDE version. The big difference between the IDE and ATAPI versions is that many computers will (try to) recognize the IDE one as a hard drive but won't boot from it. The ATAPI spec is an expansion on IDE and allows for proper recognition as a removable and bootable device, if the computer is new enough to be able to boot from ATAPI devices that aren't hard drives. ATAPI devices usually support faster transfer modes than devices that only meet the older IDE specs. Technically all "IDE" devices are actually "ATA". ATA originally meant "AT Atachment" because it was designed for the 16bit ISA IBM PC-AT bus. The term "morphed" into IDE (for Integrated Drive Electronics) as it was altered for use on the 8bit ISA bus, Macintosh and other platforms. The ATAPI specification (ATA Packet Interface) was created as ATA/IDE began to displace the various proprietary CD-ROM interfaces then was applied to hard drives, Zip disks and other non-hard drive devices. (Geeze, a rather long P.S. there, eh? ;-) ===== http://www.junkscience.com "All the Junk that's fit to Debunk!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Vintage Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> The FAQ: <http://macfaq.org/> Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com