Somehow you seem to be missing the point. I'm sure your linux box is wonderful for your HOME needs, but my problem is that I do not run the network at my work. So I either have to make my guest Macs work with my WORK dhcp server (i.e. use OT) or I have to go to my MIS group and get them to assign a static address (then use MacTCP). No doubt i could do that - but then it seems like I have to make a concession for an old Mac :-P
I believe it's the case that if I arbitrarily assign my Mac a static ip address, then the server is likely to, at some point, dole out the same address to somebody else and then we will all be in trouble.
One other thing - I bet my router uses less power, and takes up less space :-)
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 03:44 PM, Darren wrote:
John
John Niven wrote:
As you are on cable I guess you are behind a router of sorts, there's a fair chance it accepts a static address.This is true at home. In fact I have a Linksys cable/DSL router that does dhcp for my home network (and acts as a firewall IFAIK). I could turn that off, but currently it just doesn't matter because I simply use MacTCP to set a fixed ip address that's a long way from the number the dhcp starts at. This is not a problem.
My router is a linux box which doles out dhcp for the "mac of the week" and happily copes with many different platforms running static address. I wouldn't consider the purchase of any router that doesn't, actually I wont buy what I can make. :) Makes a good file, print, game server among other uses.
What is a problem, is when I take a "guest Mac of the week" to work :-) Here we use a dhcp server for everything except the unix boxes. So I'd have to request a static ip address.
I'm sorry and will possibly learn something if I ask why a mac static address would be different to a unix static address. I often hook up "guest" machines without needing to configer the router. There is a problem if the static address is of a different range to my lan but appletalk will still function in this case.
OT is needed if dhcp is the only option. Its also better supported and basicly easier, more mac like to use.So last night I tried one of my IIci with 7.1, then update 3.0. I downloaded OT 1.1.1 and OT 1.1.2 from the apple web site (you only need install disks 1 & 2 - 3 & 4 are for PPC). These loaded OK. Then I added the drag and thread manager extension (also on the Apple web site) and the iCab web browser :-)
Kewl, saves me making 4 images.
Drag and Thread manager comes with either IE or NS, cant recall which or if its both. I'm not a great fan of icab, if it works for you then thats all that matters.
My Linksys router recognized my IIci, assigned it an ip address, and a name server, and I was web browsing (admittedly slowly :):) Cool! Not as cool as OS 6 but .......
The bit of dhcp I'm not fond of is when you move the mac away from the lan and sit through the extremely long pause as OT decides whether the network exists and issues a static address. For me a static address is far easier for most conditions. A little more work that is worth it if you need to look at logs, firewalling or just bug fixing. Makes life easier for network gaming. :)
Now if only OS 6 could handle OT and/or dhcp........
Wont mactcp, I mean do you really need dhcp?
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