I appreciate your reply which does clear up some things. The confusion is a mini DIN-8, serial-like port on the Turbo Mouse itself.
on 9/23/05 2:15 AM, Scott Baret at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The Mini DIN8 was first seen on the Plus and persisted > through subsequent Macs until the iMacs and blue and > whtie G3s in 1998-1999. The ports were labeled as > printer and modem. > > The only Macs with 9 pin serials for printer and modem > were the 128K, 512K, and 512Ke. The 512Ke was > discontinued in September 1987, so support for 9-pin > peripherals continued for a few years after the Plus > came out. > > What the Plus DID have in terms of 9 pin serials was a > mouse port. It wasn't like the printer and modem ports > and is not interchangeable with those two. Keyboards > connected with the phone jack on the front of the > machine. The 512K, 128K, and 512Ke all had this port > as well. Note that the last Pluses were made in > October 1990 so the support for the mouse port > continued into the early 1990s. In addition, the 9 pin > serial connector was used to connect the mouse on the > Lisa and the Apple II series (execpt the IIGS), > although it was a card that was added on in all but > the IIc and IIc+. This port had widespread useage from > 1983-1993. Note that a mouse that was designed for, > say, the IIe (some say Mouse IIe) will work on a Mac > Plus. > > The SE and II introduced the ADB port, but only on the > Macs. Months before the SE and II came out in March > 1987 the Apple IIGS had ADB (back in September 1986). > It also used the Mini DIN8s for serial. The cable here > is not an 8 pin, but rather a 5 pin. It looks like an > S-video cable and I read somewhere a long time ago > that S-video cables can be used for ADB if a long cord > is needed. > > I've just started reading into this mouse discussion > with this post, but I'm assuming it's a Plus or > earlier mouse (sometimes called "Mac Plus mouse"). If > it does have an 8 pin serial and not the 5 pin that it > probably is should it have a DIN connector then it's > the first I've ever seen on a Mac that doesn't use a > standard input port. > > Scott > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Yes they did, but it was a DB-9 serial port. The >> mini DIN8 didn't come along >> until the SE? Or Was it the Mac II? And what is it >> doing on a mouse? >> >> My memory fails me. I used to know. >> >> Rick >> >> on 9/22/05 5:29 PM, Allan Hunter at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the >>> serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until >>> the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than >>> that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember >>> correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh >>> did. >>> >>> Be that as it may, I would assume a TurboMouse >>> with serial port would be older than one with an >>> ADB port. >>> >>> >>> >>> At 4:10 PM -0400 9/22/05, Juan Carlos De La Cruz >> wrote: >>>> ... now that would be interesting to know. >>>> >>>> What did came first? Serial port or ADB Port? I >> don´t remember well. >>>> >>>> Therefore it would be that Kensington released >>>> that as a way to use the device on both kind of >>>> serial ports maybe? >>>> >>>> Then I ask myself.. Why not over ADB connection, >>>> then? How old are we talking about? :D >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Juan Carlos De La Cruz >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc >>>> http://jcdlc.blogspot.com >>>> )O( >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 22, 2005, at 16:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote: >>>> >>>> I remember that now and appreciate everybody's >> response. What do you suppose >>>> the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can >> find nothing on >>>> Kensington's site. >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> >> and... >> >> Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com >> | Enter To Win A | >> -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 >> | Free iBook! | >> >> Support Low End Mac >> <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> >> >> Vintage Macs list info: >> <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> >> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; >> Send list messages to: >> <mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> >> To unsubscribe, email: >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> For digest mode, email: >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subscription questions: >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Archive: >> > <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> >> >> iPod Accessories for Less >> at 1-800-iPOD.COM >> Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal >> www.1800ipod.com >> > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! 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