Nice to hear from you Bruce.  Can't you think of better things to think
about than me?  LOL!  Seriously it's nice to be remembered.

I tried to subscribe another email address to the listserv and there is
just nothing I can do.  It's just locked up really tight so I'm even
wondering if any new subscribers can get on?  We might just be locked down
to whomever is here at the moment, but I'm not for sure.

The glory days of the list seem to be in the past since and it's a shame,
but it's clearly evident why.  The mass use of internet and the social
media platforms have just completely watered things down.  It used to be
that if you "on the list" you were automatically in a close-knit group that
required some level of computer savvy to find and get on to.  Admittedly
though, isn't it so much easier to just click 'Join Group' on facebook,
kick back, and let the information and pictures roll in?  Before, you had
to send emails in to subscribe, unsubscribe (how many times did we see
'unsubscribe' sent to the list?  LOL!), and all other queries done in a
fashion that was appropriate for the level of technology we had at hand .
It's a pity shame the archived posts, to my knowledge, are gone.  If John
Sroka has any of them, it would be nice to get ahold of them and spread
them around.

I learned that last winter, Gerald Livingston succumbed to heart disease.
He was on here, but more so on the type2 listservs.  We didn't find out
until many months later, but wondered why the Buskatiers website that he
hosted had gone off-line.  I got to see him about a year before he died
when my wife and I went down to the gulf coast for a getaway trip.  I had a
hunch it might have been the last time I'd see him alive.  He had a ton of
VW and Commodore computer stuff laying around plus a ton of other
equipment.

I never did forget Scott Yuppa who was on the list a short time and passed
away in an airplane accident with his dad Carmine (I think?).  We've lost
quite a few others and it's sad that in our minds, we met these amazing
individuals who were so giving of their time and knowledge and if we were
really fortunate, we got to meet them in person - and with the passing of
time - they're gone.  Bob Hoover is also missed.

I hate to think the list has degraded into a bunch of old fogies sitting
around thinking about the past, but with such a large movement towards
social media, perhaps we should look at a side-gig of adding a vintagvw
group to facebook.  I mean, it could really revitalize the list by sharing
the wit and wisdom of the old-timers with any new-comers who might be
interested.  I always did prefer the email aspect as it was fast and like
reading a good book.  Like radio was prior to TV - the pictures in our
heads were removed once we could see who was talking.  I'm on facebook, but
I really limit what I share on there and it seems that it's a very
successful surveillance machine and that fact alone makes me not like it.

Oddly enough, since I don't change easily with time, I still carry around a
2003 Motorola V60s cell-phone which Verizon has continued to allow to
operate on their towers.  It fits in my bib pocket quite nicely and is loud
enough to be heard over the saw at work - even while doing a full rip on a
board.  I had a truck driver this past week say, "Is that a cell phone?"
It struck me that is now an old term.  Today it's called a smartphone.  I
own several smartphones and use them when I travel, but for the day to day
monotony of life - it's what I like.  Old cars are the same way - they
might not get as good of mileage and might not have all the modern
conveniences, but there is a certain amount of freedom one gains by
sticking with the familiar, the easily repaired, and something within your
skill level to fix and maintain.  My V60 has had it's motherboard dropped
into a new shell 7 to 10 times at this point.  I take the phone apart, fix
it, and it keeps right on working.  Even soldering the internal antenna
connector back on is something I've gotten good at.

Anyway, concerning the listserv at present.  I found this archive:
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/  so that might
provide some way to look for old posts.  At this point though, it seems we
are invisible list not easily accessible.  That ended with the demise of
the old sjsu server of years gone by.

I fully expect that we will see some frantic messages requesting to
unsubscribe from those who forgot they were subbed because it's been so
long since they joined.  It just kind of goes with the territory when
suddenly a big ol' post comes through the email that one isn't used to
seeing.

I guess that's it for now.  I'll sit back and see what everyone else has to
say.

NQ




On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 1:16 PM 'Bruce Howard' via VintagVW - Air Cooled
Volkswagen Discussion List <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm still here. Was thinking about you the other day, NQ.
>
> Still no VW but I have my eye on a field Ghia. Been watching a lot of Mike
> FN Garage on YouTube. Made me miss the community.
>
> I'm in Massachusetts now, living in a toy hauler, sans toy, working a
> Lockheed Martin g contract. Fam is still in TX and FL.
>
> Later,
> VWguyBruce
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Lazlo <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2021 2:11:58 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [vintagvw] Is the list still active?
>
> Hi gang - just going through some old messages in my little-used gmail
> account and I saw some VintagVW messages.  Are we still live or are we in
> the post-mortem throws of death?  TTYL!
>
> NQ
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