Hi everyone. The VintagVW discussion list is still on Google Groups, I think some of the issues you are reporting are that Google is making list participation a lot harder without each subscriber having a Google id.
The last post before these recent threads was June 2020, per the footer all posts are archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] back to 2008. Subscribe/Unsubscribe options used to be simple, it appears now that Google is asking for a Google userid for a subscriber to self-serve their subscription status. For now, any questions about list subscription can be sent to my personal address [email protected] The 2012 migration from ListProc to Google Groups was due to the University's migration to the Google Education suite, non-University lists were asked to move elsewhere. NQ, thanks for your ideas about the list direction; happy to work with you and any others who are interested on list future and possible transfer of list ownership. Best, John On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 6:40 AM Dave C. Bolen <[email protected]> wrote: > NQ, > > From a 50 year IT perspective I suspect it was moved over to googlegroups > so that it was free. No servers to worry about and if emails that are > flowing thru this group get the same scan as all gmail messages then it > is pretty safe. > > The admin side of it is probably pretty easy and straightforward as long > as someone still has the credentials. > > Finding who "owns" the group might be difficult but not impossible. > > this page might be helpfull. > https://support.google.com/groups/#topic=9216 > > Cheers, dave > > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021, Lazlo wrote: > > > I wanted to ask everyone's opinion on what they think would be a good > direction for the listserv? I'm not > > willing to let it go, but 9 years ago when it was moved over to google > groups, it was never the same. For > > whatever reason, John Sroka moved it over - I suppose due to the > dwindling support and people moving enmasse > > over to other platforms. > > I suppose with me it's the tradition of getting my information via email > and uncluttered with photos and ads as > > you would get from facebook. Pictures are nice and there is some merit > to it, but the tradition of > > disseminating information over email means something to me. It's really > cool that after all these years, we > > are all still on! I have no idea how many people are left on here, but > I'd hate to lose touch. I'm sure we > > lost touch with a ton of people already. > > > > I've looked into installing listserv software on a dedicated server > (which would be prone to the occasional > > internet outages that I go through) and perhaps maybe there are other > "free" or even pay-based sites that would > > work far better than google groups. I guess the option is there to just > simply start a new google group with > > the same name where it can be moderated. > > > > Or in the end is it all worth it? I like the ability to go months or > years, send a message, and boom - still > > get replies from some of the core users. That's really cool. > > > > If any of you would be interested in some future version of the > listserv, I'd be willing to compile a list of > > names and email addresses so that if and when something new comes about, > I could notify you. Feel free to > > email me at my same email address I've had for over 20 years at > silentATbeatriceneDOTcom or my google one > > erinDOTlassleyATgmailDOTcom and I'll compile a list and keep your info > offline. > > > > I'm open to suggestions as well. Managing a private listserv can be > quite involved and does have the potential > > to be abused with spam (which requires active management.) There is > also the option of having a facebook page > > which would serve as a supplement to a listserv where pictures could be > shown as well as utilizing the page as > > a way to shuttle people to the listserv. I guess we also have the > option of leaving things as they are, but > > with a moderator I have no idea how much longer this will last. It's > not being actively maintained and new > > users aren't able to join. I would like to think that maybe since there > are long periods of inactivity, John > > just doesn't check it any more or maybe he has met with an untimely > demise. Covid has been brutal and I'm sure > > if something happened to him, this listserv would be the least of his > families worries (if they even know about > > it at all.) > > > > Let me know what you think. Being honest is fine. If disbanding and > letting it rest sounds good, though sad > > perhaps it would be realistic? > > > > I better get ready for work so have a think and let me know if you guys > think we should do something to > > preserve our listserv. > > > > NQ > > > > -- > > Visit the VintagVW archives at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen > > Discussion List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to > > [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visithttps:// > groups.google.com/d/msgid/vintagvw/CAKxGCtMDaCYYLgR_hn8fjGCzZcbAtfbSHJpGJiyGwnJ%3Di9iCvA%40mail.gmail > . > > com. > > > > > > -- > Visit the VintagVW archives at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vintagvw/alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2111030828050.183880%40dcb-Gazelle-Professional.localdomain > . > -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List" group. 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