well, I am also of the opinion that companies are obligated to provide a quality product for the price offered. after all, we are their bread and butter. also, the blind are a non-trivial market and we do have some say in how products need to be made. otherwise, we will vote with our wallets and go to the competition. Now, apple realizes this and they are more than happy to make most (if not all) of their products as accessible as possible. after all, a significant portion of iphone users are blind (or otherwise print impaired). If apple didn't care, we would have gone to droid (which can be made accessible if the carriers would just quit breaking the feature with their stupid interface designs).
and yes, if companies want the business of us and our friends and families (that is a lot more than 25 million), they need to wake up and smell the coffee. so, yeah, they are under obligation. if they don't want our money, I am sure someone else will. -eric On May 9, 2012, at 6:50 PM, James Mannion wrote: > Just to offer my perspective and one you may not be considering, being > thankful and appreciative does not mean having to give up any > expectation of standards or things being correct. Yes I am extremely > appreciative and I'm sure others are as well that we get access and it > makes a world of difference. I give them much credit for that and it > changes a lot! However, accessibility should not completely have to be > viewed as a charity and I can assure you that is not why it is done > anyway. Being thankful and having an expectation of quality can and > for me will coexist and I do not think it is at all fare to say one is > obligated to give up any expectations of quality in the name of being > thankful. Yes if your friend does something for you then you do not > slap them in the face because it wasn't done just how you wanted it or > to the extent you wanted it to be done. They are giving more like it > is a charitable thing. To say that is the case with a company is to > say we are second rate and should only have any expectation of > anything that someone wants to give above and beyond anything they > would normally or rightfully do. Yes the two blend to an extent and > yes definitely be thankful, but do not say someone is being rude to > have any quality expectation in this context. > > On 5/9/12, Mike Maslo <mmaslo1...@swbell.net> wrote: >> Here here so many want everything and are not happy witv what they have >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 9, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I will probably will be belittled by some on this list, but this topic is >>> turning somewhat negative and is getting old. Please stop whining and be >>> grateful that we are able to have a product that works out of a box. >>> Mainstream companies are not obligated to make products accessible. This >>> list needs to get back to basics in helping others. I value the learning >>> from more advance users of the iPhone. However, it may be time to take a >>> break from this list because of the recent negativity. >>> >>> Thanks for listening and I hope those who are so critical of others have a >>> change of heart. >>> >>> Best, >>> Eileen >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
