Hey Mike, again, this is one of the misconceptions going around:
this is not a reboot, not in the least. :)
Cheers,
Grant
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Cassidy" <mike.cassidy...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:17:39 +0100
Subject: RE: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Hi,
Power and home buttons held is the official way, is it not; it
would seem
unwise to me to bash away repetitively at buttons in the hope
that the poor
phone will re-boot in despair at the insult applied to it.
Regards,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: 31 May 2012 11:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal
Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more
correct for
what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched
whether or
not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being
pressed
multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not
safe to me.
At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 seconds,
it's
giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can so that
files and
data are not being accessed while the phone is forced to reboot.
This is why
it's probably a several second process.
Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't
accidentally
reboot your phone without meaning to.
Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. <smile
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On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
Hello Grant,
My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing
the
springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My
friend says
there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I
prefer not to
take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which
then required
me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time
which I
prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the
chance.
An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and
power
buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and
properly
restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the
reboot
takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting
up.
To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to
first turn
the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the
reboot.
Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying
on the
list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple
tech support
person was in the higher tier of support.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy<grantha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a
forced
reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If
system
corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method
(which as
I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could
occur
with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything
down.
Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the
iOS
platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture.
It's
the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store
any
critical user data.
I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on
list.
I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people
understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that
data
corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just
that--a
theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively
little
technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced
collapsing
of the iOS system" statement, which this is not.
Warmly :)
Grant
On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav<for...@talknav.com>
wrote:
Adrian,
I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of
Voice
Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or
a
handset which is rarely power cycled.
My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their
App
Switcher daily and perform a power cycle immediately there
after.
This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the
first stuttering symptoms appeared.
In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion
that
there is a possible chance of corruption by performing the
forced
collapsing of the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive
presses
of the power key.
The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a
result maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant
part
of your user data. If this happened at the exact moment you
performed the 5 successive presses of the power key, it is
conceivable
that it might corrupt data.
The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at
the
same time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded
into the
iOS as a sort of. I want to reboot this device, prepare for it
please and stop doing anything critical notification to the
device.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather
TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as
an
Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For
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On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote:
is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read
using voice over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of
a
way i can fix it?
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