Come on. Haven't you people anything better to do. Knock it off. Winers and complainers.
Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Trialware is not uncommon, so I wouldn't consider this a example of bait > and switch or extortion. It was never stated that the app would always > be free, and it didn't tie you into something like an email address or a > phone number that you'd want to keep after it stopped being free. I'm > not sure what Apple's policy is on this, and I think you have a point > that it should have probably been clear up front that it's trialware. > > BTW, I like free versus paid versions of apps, but I also like > trialware. I like being able to check out the benefits and accessibility > of the more advanced features you only get in the paid version before I > have to pay for it. > > On 24/06/12 09:51, Keith Watson wrote: >> Mike, >> >> Again, apparently you don't read very well. As I said in my previous posts >> had he placed the price at $1.99 or $4.99 up front I would probably have >> bought it. If he puts a free limited version and a paid full version in the >> store I would buy the paid version. Your assumption that I am bitching about >> it costing money is totally and utterly off base. Before you go throwing the >> blind card I suggest that you digest what the person is attempting to >> impart. I have and will continue to support apps that are created for our >> community. Your assertion that I am one of "those" blinds who believe that >> everything for blind consumption should be handed to us without cost is >> incorrect and quite frankly offensive. My intent in voicing my opinion this >> morning was to indicate to Ben that I think he made a mistake in the way he >> implemented his pricing model and maybe that he should possibly rethink it, >> not to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. >> >> Nuff said! >> >> Keith >> >> On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: >> >>> Keith: >>> >>> Good job so drop the subject. No one had a gun to your head forcing you to >>> buy anything. >>> >>> The next time something is free we will make sure it is totally free for >>> you. We will ensure that everything you buy s free also. >>> >>> My guess is if it would have been $1.99 up front you would have complained >>> about the fact that it did not have all the features you wanted and then >>> demanded a refund. >>> >>> >>> Some time you can not make everyone happy. I leanred that while working and >>> I see it is true here too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Keith Watson >>> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:20 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice >>> >>> Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: >>> >>>> Keith >>>> >>>> Remove the app and call it a day >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson <lnx...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there >>> was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional >>> functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this >>> model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that >>> sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I >>> am willing to pay that price. That is my point. >>>>> >>>>> Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I >>> purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually >>> have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts >>> to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was >>> because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. >>> Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then >>> been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked >>> and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. >>> In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and >>> it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he >>> charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and >>> disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old >>> enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to >>> hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the >>> app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then >>> so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this >>> to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there >>> is a problem. >>>>> >>>>> Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full >>> featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. >>> I really do like the app and wish you well. >>>>> >>>>> Keith >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there. >>>>>> Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have "limited >>> functionality." >>>>>> It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says >>> that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're "limited >>> functionality." Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just >>> want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. >>>>>> Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what >>> I've just spent time spelling out for you. >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> Matthew Campbell. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anthony, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's >>> fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to >>> use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I >>> will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait >>> and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited >>> functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem >>> and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid >>> version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and >>> will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Keith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope so. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, "Laura ann Grymes, LMT" >>>>>>>> <agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not yet but it may be coming soon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> voicebook vo FAQ >>>>>>>>> http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> voicebook vo roadmap >>>>>>>>> >>> http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura 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