Is there any way to get access to the regular Deezer app without having Sonos? I have heard that in other countries, they can just fire up the Deezer app on their phone, but in the states, they don't let you sign up for it to be able to log in, as far as I know, without having Sonos to play it on. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:52 PM Subject: RE: Sonos and Deezer with new features - now my top choice for music services
HiTeresa, To add to Jim’s message, yes, you do need Sonos hardware in order to use the app. Jim provided the link to their website and if you search the archive for “Sonos” you will find a lot of threads about their offering. I bought my first Sonos players right after I bought my first iPod Touch third Gen in September 2009 and have posted quite a lot about it. For the first few years the Sonos app was useable, but it had some unlabeled buttons and was not nearly as nice as it is now. Neil Barnfather from England, myself and some others buged Sonos a lot in those years about their apparentl lack of commitment towards accessibility. It seemed strange since otherwise Sonos is an awesome company with fantastic customer service, very much Apple like with respect to service and the quality and design of their products. I can’t remember exactly when I was contacted by Sonos to beta test their app with new accessibility features, but it’s been at least a year or maybe close to 2 now and by now the Sonos app is fantastic. I just received a new beta with specific Voiceover improvements and was asked to test it and provide feedback and Sonos definitely seems to have a firm commitement to the accessibility of their app. I can’t, of course, speak for the Android app, but on iOS it’s awesome and the PC desktop app is also very accessibile with Jaws although you have to use it by tabbing around and using enter or the right arrow to open menus and so on, the Jaws cursor reads nothing. Anyhow, I don’t find myself using the desktop app hardly ever simply because the iOS app is working so well. As for the hardware, it consists of a number of different “zone players” which you can place throughout your house. Initially one of these players had to be connected to your router with a cable or you could buy a “Bridge” which you would connect to your router and which would transmit the wireless signal/network. By now you can set up the entire system wirelessly by connecting it to your WiFi unless you have their soundbar in which case you still have to wire at least one player or get a Bridge and then Sonos creates its own Zigby network which allows all the players to talk to each other.. The Sonos product offering is pretty comprehensive and consists of the following: 1. Connect: This player is about the size of an Apple TV, but maybe twice as thick/tall. It is meant to give you access to Sonos on an existing music system like an amplifier or receiver connected to speakers. The Connect has 1 set of RCA inputs (red and white) which allows you to connect a source like a CD player or anything with RCA or 3.5mm output. You then have 3 different outputs which allow you to connect it to your amplifier or receiver: RCA (analogue), Optical Digital or Coax Digital. If you connect it via one of the digital outputs, you could also still use the RCA outputs to hook up a set of powered computer speakers and it would send the signal to both the receiver and the speakers simultaneously. I, for example, have a Connect hooked up to my high-end tube amplifier downstairs via the Coax digital, but I am also running a 20 foot RCA cable into the laundry room where I have a set of computer speakers so if I am just doing stuff around the house and want to have an audio book or music playing throughout all rooms, I can do that. The Connect is $399. 2. The Connect Amp: This is similar to the Connect, but it’s a bit larger and it has a built-in 110 Watt (55 Watts per channel) Class D digital amplifier. It has also a set of RCA inputs to hook up a source, but instead of the RCA and digital outputs, it has a set of regular speaker terminals so you can connect a set of standard bookshelf, tower or built-in wall or ceiling speakers. In my case I have 3 of these units in my house, in the bedroom, the bathroom and the kitchen. In all rooms they are connected to either in-ceiling or in-wall speakers. Price for the Connect Amp is $599. 3. The Play 5: This is a stand-alone boombox type speaker. You can place it anywhere as long as you have a power outlet nearby as it does need power (it cannot run on batteries). It has 5 separate speakers each of which is driven by it’s own Class D amplifier (2 tweeters, 2 mid range drivers and a base. The Play 5 has a 3.5mm input and a 3.5mm output/headphone jack and costs $399.. 4. The Play 3: Similar to the Play 5, but smaller with a tweeter, mid range driver and base, once again each driven by its own Class D amplifier. This player has neither an input nor a headphone jack and goes for $299. 5. The Play 1: The smallest speaker with a single driver, once again no input or headphone jack. Cost is $199 and it still sounds amazing. Any of the portable players, Play 5, Play 3 or Play 1 can be set up as a stereo pair, but they have to be the same, e.g. two Play 1 or two Play 3, you can’t set up one Play 1 and one Play 3 as a stereo pair. 6. The Playbar: This is a soundbar with 9 individually driven speakers. It’s about 3 feet long and won all awards in 2014 for the best soundbar. It has one single optical digital input and you hook it up to the optical digital output of you TV. Of course you can still play all the internet content on it wirelessly same as with all other Sonos players and if you have, for example, a CD player hooked up to another Sonos player, you can play music from your CD’s, any source that is hooked up to one Sonos player is available on all players and you can play it just in one room or you can group your players together. I can group bedroom and bathroom and listen to Deezer wheras my wife could group kitchen and livignr oom and listen to something else or you can put all your Sonos players in “Party Mode” so whatever you play is synchronized across all players in your house. The Playbar is $699. 7. Lastly, the Sonos Sub: This is a wireless subwover which is about the size of a traditional PC desktop tower except that it weighs almost 40 pounds and it sets you back another $699. You can set up a Sonos Sub with all other Sonos players except for the Connect which is the non-amplified player that connects to an existing stereo system. A set of Play 1 and the Sonos Sub sound amazing and that setup would cost you two times $200 + $700, so a total of $1,100. Of course a set of Play 3 or Play 5 with the Sub sound even better especially if it were a large room. You can also set up the Playbar with the Sub and a set of Play 1 or Play 3 as rear channels for a full 5.1 surround setup. As for content, you can point the Sonos app to a folder or external drive connected to your computer where you have all your music and play all that music on your Sonos system. You can also play any music on your iPhone to your Sonos system and while Sonos currently doesn’t support Airplay natively, you can hook up an Airport Express to a Sonos players and it basically becomes just a source so you Airplay to the Airport Express and it’s available on your entire Sonos system. As for music services, Sonos supports just about anything there is from Tune In stations, Slacker and Songsa to Sirius XM, Deezer, Spotify, Tidal and so on. I think all in all they support over 30 music subscription services and most of them are also very easy to use via the Sonos app, essentially each music service is an app that lives inside Sonos just like Netflix or Youtube are apps that live inside the Apple TV. OK, I think that about describes what Sonos is, I think anybody who owns one or more Sonos components love it. I am really hoping that they are going to release a headset or a small battery powered headphone amplifier which you could clip to your belt and plug in a headset you already own so that you have access to all your Sonos content on a headset. I also have my laptop connected to my Sonos Connect in my office, so I can take my Logitech wireless keyboard anywhere in the house and all I have to do is set the Sonos player in the room I am in to play that source and I get Jaws anywhere I go. Currently I have my Play 5 sitting in the bedroom as well with a headset connected so that way I can use the computer in the evening if my wife is already asleep. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos and Deezer with new features - now my top choice for music services It is software for its line of speakers. http://sonos.com I love it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos and Deezer with new features - now my top choice for music services Does one need Sonos hardware to get these features? I'm not familiar with Sonos. Is it companion software for a device, or does it work by itself? Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Feb 15, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Hello Craig and others, I just received an email from Deezer this morning with the following: The Sonos app has been updated! You can now use these Deezer features directly on your Sonos device: • Discover a better navigation experience and an easy-to-use interface. • Listen to your Flow, your 100% personalised radio. • Find recommendations, search and create playlists. · Add songs to your Favourite tracks. Go to your Sonos app to try it now. Don't have the app? Download it from the App Store or the Google Play Store. Of course I tried it immediately to see if these updates may have fixed the problem I had with my songs constantly skipping half way through and going on to the next song. Sure enough, I played the entire Greatest Hits album from Journey with not a single skip or hiccup. The implementation of all the Deezer features is absolutely outstanding and I bet Sonos fans with Spotify subscriptions will leave them behind very quickly if they realize how much more Deezer offers. Of course with Deezer Elite which offers lossless streaming similar to Tidal, Deezer also wins over that service since they have way more tracks, I believe they claim 35 million tracks. I know Deezer as a stand-along service is not available right now in the States, but it is available via Sonos and now that they have basically put the full functionality of the website and the Deezer app into Sonos it is to me a total no-brainer. I had already cancelled my Spotify subscription a while back, but still have the Tidal trial subscription which was offered at 40% off for the first 3 months, but now I am going to cancel that and simply upgrade my Deezer account to Deezer Elite. 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