Alan, you raise a good point. I don’t want to belabor it, but back in the day, computer software, even when accessible, had many many bumps in the road. We have grown accustom to having everything work right out of the box. There are two sides to this.
Why shouldn’t it. It works for other people, although if you read about some of the latest Apple iOS releases, it effected people who see just as much as people who are blind. And thus, the other side of the coin. Not everything works perfectly for every person. If you consider the number of apps native to the iPhone and those by third parties, it is quite amazing that as many of work as do. I know, there are people who say that all things should work all the time and right out of the box. But I will tell you, as someone who has developed iPhone apps, you test it as best you can by a number of people and as soon as you give it to that one last person, they will find something that doesn’t work. As Alan said, it is complicated and there are many things that can be tried, and if you took the time to try everything you can do on the iPhone, for example, in every imaginable situation, it would take you and all your friends a very long time and you may not find them all. So, while sometimes I may complain about things not working, I also understand the many steps developers go through to try as best they can to make things work. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOs 8.2 Neal, I hear you. I've just about decided to expect the unexpected with these devices. They are so much more complex than the computers we've used for years and we all know what kind of surprises those have brought. Alan -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOs 8.2 Alan, I didn’t get it with the 6, but I did with the 5. I had never gotten that message before and I must say that it was a bit scary, but I knew I was backing up my secondary iPhone so I didn’t worry all hat much. A re-boot definitely fixed the problem. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOs 8.2 Neal, I got this same hiccup too when I updated using iTunes for Windows 11.4.x. However, when I unplugged my lightning cable and reconnected it, iTunes then saw my updated iPhone 6. Alan Lemly -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 10:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOs 8.2 Hi, I had one little hiccup when updating. When my phone rebooted I was told that iTunes could not connect to this phone. I disconnected and re-connected the phone a few times, opened and closed iTunes with no success. I rebooted my computer and all worked well. This is evidently an anomaly, in that I have not heard of this happening to others. And, it now works. So, just a minor thing. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brian albriton Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOs 8.2 I have found concerning braille screen input, the same issues that I previously found in Safari. Braille sgreen input works on the address field in Safari, but not in other form fields One example would be on the national Library service website in the search the catalog page The website is WWW dot LOC.GOV/MLS On Mar 9, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: I cannot get the Braille screen input to function with Outlook. Has anyone else had this problem? I just downloaded the new update. Jenn and Kumi On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:28 PM -0700, "John Diakogeorgiou" <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote: Mine took a bit of time but I did it around 3 eastern just a little while after it became available to me. I think it's pretty big only because it took longer than usual to install. I haven't played enough with it to give any concrete feedback. However, so far it is working well for me. On 3/9/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: > How long did it take to download and install? Is it a big upgrade? Thanks, > Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Wayne Merritt > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOs 8.2 > > For what its worth, VoiceOver seems to be a bit more snappy on my iPhone 6 > running v8.2. This is particularly true when going to a home screen from > within an app. There used to be a delay from between a few to up to 10 or 15 > seconds before I got speech in 8.1.3 and lower. When doing the update > earlier, I hit the learn more button and read the full list of changes. > Though this is not VO related, I was very pleased to see that some calendar > bugs have been fixed, such as the GMT bug which has been present since iOS > 8.0 initial release. I'm sure you can do a search on the web to read more > about that annoying bug. I recall seeing a few other bug fixes and > enhancements that peeked my interest, but don't remember at the moment what > they were. Anyway, worth the update if only for the VO stability > improvements. AppleVis also has a post which hints at more accessibility > fixes perhaps to come in version 8.3. 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