Hi Cheryl, 

Great, thanks for that. I tried the dot 5 6 prefix, but never thought of the 
dot 2 prefix. 

I guess I am showing my age. "(  

Cheers, 
Brett. 


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> On 2 Jun 2015, at 12:02 am, Cheryl Lenartiene <cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> In the native iOS Braille input, to write a period in the middle of a string 
> of characters, such as an e-mail address, type dot 4 followed by dots 4 6.
> Cheryl  
> 
> Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
> 
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> 
>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Here is just my opinion.
>>  
>> I think the initial purchase of the app 33AUD was worth every cent, I think 
>> the third-party keyboard is overpriced and taking the micky a bit. Given 
>> that other third-party keyboards are free or under 2.50 and there was no 
>> initial purchase price. The other third-party keyboards include word 
>> prediction and spell checking in most cases, which MBraille doesn’t.
>>  
>> There are three advantages with MBraille as a third-party keyboard:
>> 1.       You can do a one finger flick up to read what you have written. 
>> With iOS Braille, you must dismiss the keyboard before you can read the 
>> message. You then need to edit the message using the standard keyboard.
>> 2.       If when reading the message, you notice a mistake, you can navigate 
>> to it and correct it still using the MBraille keyboard, as long as you don’t 
>> have direct input enabled. I haven’t found a reason to enable direct input 
>> yet.
>> 3.       When writing email addresses or web addresses with iOS Braille, I 
>> have found when writing the dot com part, you need to braille the period, do 
>> a space to enter the period, delete the space then write the com bit. You 
>> don’t have to muck around like this with MBraille. If someone knows of a way 
>> to do this with iOS braille, please let me know.
>>  
>> Although these advantages are nice, you need to decide if its worth the 
>> extra money over iOS Braille. I was curious and could afford it, so I gave 
>> it a go to satisfy my curiosity. I don’t regret it, but still think its 
>> overpriced as you do loose some MBraille features in the third-party 
>> keyboard. For Example, spell checking is not available and if you don’t want 
>> to put mBraille first in line in your keyboard list, you need to switch to 
>> it every time you want to use it and it is much easier and faster to bring 
>> up the iOS braille keyboard than the MBraille one.
>>  
>> Just my opinion, hopefully it helps you to make an informed decision.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Brett.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Monday, 1 June 2015 7:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Pricing and so forth was Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a 
>> third-party keyboard
>>  
>> Hi, It’s true that Harry has put on his thinking cap when he made this app. 
>> I only reacted to the price because there were so many price alternatives 
>> that were unclear, and there are many features i’m not sure i would use, but 
>> then again, what i use and when may very well vary. I like the idea of the 
>> shortcuts to post to various sources. Well we’ll see if i get around to 
>> purchasing it or if i keep switching between Fleksy and the stock keyboard. 
>> I would be curious though to find out how mBraille works in certain 
>> situations.
>> /Krister
>>  
>> 1 jun 2015 kl. 10:45 skrev Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com>:
>>  
>> Since I now use mBraille instead of an external keyboard, I have no issues 
>> with the price.
>> On the mBraille list, Harri admitted not being clear when he changed a few 
>> things and dropped the early products.
>> I do think he messed up with the marketing side of things, and yes, the app 
>> has a few issues as a third party keyboard which he is working hard to fix, 
>> though some of the issues are because of the way Apple restricts developers.
>> He only included the third party keyboard after enough people begged him to 
>> do it.and given the way Apple does things, it was a much bigger job than 
>> expected.
>> But, it works well in most cases.
>> I do not know what is causing Michele's issue. I can use it when creating or 
>> replying to text messages just fine.
>> Back to the pricing, if you paid what was $29.99 in the US, you have to buy 
>> the third party keyboard for,  $9.99 or buy both the third party keyboard 
>> and Dropbox accessibility for $14.99.
>> Now, there are only two pricing options beyond the free version.
>> You can buy just the third party keyboard for $9.99 or the "Full Version" 
>> for $39.99 which includes dropbox and third party keyboard capability.
>> Sory I only know the US prices.
>> Could Harri have done the amount of work he did to make this app and charged 
>> less? I have no idea.
>> I'm not a programmer and have no idea how many hours it takes to do what he 
>> has done.
>> But, I do know that from the first release, he has out performed any other 
>> attempt at a braille entry system.
>> JMO,
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I think that A, the program is over priced but we can’t do much about it 
>> since we are a small market so guess we’ll have to be satisfied with it or 
>> not purchase it. B, the price table is very vague. I don’t know what i get 
>> for the amount i paid, at least i got very confused when it came to what i 
>> got for the price. There’s a full price but then, do you have to pay more in 
>> order to get the third party keyboard support?
>> /Krister
>>  
>> 31 maj 2015 kl. 23:19 skrev Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com>:
>>  
>> Yes it is.
>>  
>> Are you using the Away mode layout?
>>  
>> When you select mBraille as the keyboard, you should hear mBraille spoken 
>> and then be able to start writing.
>>  
>> Maybe you could say which device and what mode, etc.
>> Do you have direct input on or off?
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>> what they become by it."
>> 
>> - John Ruskin
>> 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Michelle McQuigge
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard
>>  
>> Richard, 
>>  
>> I purchased what was advertised as the full mBraille program yesterday. It 
>> cost about $45 Canadian and definitely includes dropbox support. At that 
>> price, surely third-party keyboard permissions are included too? 
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard
>>  
>> If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3.
>> If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at 
>> $29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both 
>> Dropbox and third party keyboard support.
>> It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have 
>> tried it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a 
>> three finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just 
>> dismiss the keyboard with the three finger swipe left.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge <michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use 
>> mBraille as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an 
>> iPhone 6 and have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the 
>> app. 
>> 
>> I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I access 
>> functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in order 
>> to reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, basically 
>> nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. 
>> It clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what should be the 
>> dot 3 and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only 
>> button I can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my primary keyboard. 
>> If I open mBraille and then select messages, though, then everything works 
>> as expected. 
>> 
>> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
>> mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
>> going through mBraille itself first? 
>> 
>> If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wrong or to 
>> address the problem, I'd be really grateful. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Michelle
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