I can use the cloud I rarely use data to listen to music. I may be eventually 
where I will want it on my device as I will hopeofly be going out about more 
soon, but now I just want it on the cloud and do not understand this. Perhaps I 
need an intro podcast to the cloud so I should look for that as well maybe help 
me.
Eden

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christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan to 
listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it can 
be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data plan or 
whose local network is out of range.


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> On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard <biljm...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> hi Chris,
> 
> Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the 
> cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan 
> while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
> Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without 
> it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.
> 
> thanks again,
> Billy Maynard
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
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> 
> 
> Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not "buy" the music in Apple 
> Music; you "rent" it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
> download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
> device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
> much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
> towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.
> 
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>> On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard <biljm...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
>> but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
>> iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way 
>> to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this 
>> specificly.
>> 
>> Billy Maynard
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>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
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>> 
>> 
>> The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
>> belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
>> 
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>>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don & Cher <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
>>> Cher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
>>> 
>>>  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
>>> have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
>>> 
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>>> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music review
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
>>> the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
>>> weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
>>> mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it 
>>> access to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
>>> 
>>> On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
>>>> After
>>>> all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of BrianMiller
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple Music review
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library 
>>>> got engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and 
>>>> disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I 
>>>> have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my 
>>>> external harddrive, and all my folders were messed up, songs 
>>>> missing, artwork, missing, things renamed, things deleted, 
>>>> replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building and 
>>>> organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t 
>>>> even begin to think of what I’ve lost.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music review
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you 
>>>> turn on iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. 
>>>> People have said that albums were split into two separate albums, 
>>>> that artwork was messed up, and other not nice things. Someone even 
>>>> said that iTunes had deleted their songs, and replace them with 
>>>> ones that had DRM. On hearing all these not great comments about 
>>>> iCloud Music Library, I plan to avoid it for a while until Apple 
>>>> gets their crap together. They seem to have problems with cloud 
>>>> stuff. I heard that iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know 
>>>> what they are/were, but when I heard that, especially from the 
>>>> developer of Voice Dream Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ari
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi. I didn't read the whole article, but I don't need to read it to 
>>>> know that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people 
>>>> like him need to remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with 
>>>> the times. If they stuck with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they 
>>>> wouldn't be where they're at today. Also, that guy is wrong about 
>>>> people who don't want to pay for the subscription to Apple Music 
>>>> because didn't Apple say that you can use some of the services if 
>>>> you opt out of the subscription?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca 
>>>> <mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Apple Music Is Hot — and Messy
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-music-is-hot-and-messy-12287000311
>>>> 9.html
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
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