If you've read about all this tech that people have brought out of their head, like that lovely $300 20-cell display people were talking about, that always wind up never actually being made, you'd see why I'm reluctant to embrace any "cheap braille" talk like this. Yes I love braille. I wouldn't be typing in braille on my phone and hoping to save up for any braille display I can get if I didn't. The fact is though, I've seen plenty "projects" to help us poor blind people come and go, and have learned not to get my hopes up.
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd suggest you do a bit more research before jumping to such conclusions. I > doubt you have any idea whether this company worked with blind people in the > research and development of this product or not. Your comments seem to > indicate that you haven't done much reading on this device, and obviously, > you haven't seen it in action yet. > > As others have said, a 12 or 14 cell braille display won't be as mobile as a > watch. Just because you don't see how such a device would be useful doesn't > mean there aren't others out there who wouldn't find this device beneficial. > > Luckily there are smart engineers out there who don't listen to such > uninformed negativity and don't just assume it's impossible to come up with a > braille smart watch. It's a good thing Apple engineers didn't listen to all > of the blind nay sayers who said a touch screen could never be used by the > blind. For me, I say put your smart guys on it, bring me your good ideas, and > I'll buy it if I think it's worth it or I'll move on if I don't. Either way, > all blind people will have more options and more choices. > > >> On 08/14/2015 12:01 AM, Devin Prater wrote: >> Companies are getting more stupid every day. Rule 1. Contact actual >> blind people before making something, or all you'll do is make yourself >> look incredibly stupid. >> Now, if you want to make braille, make an 18 cell or even 14 cell device >> for mobile, and 40 or 32 for computer usage. Want to make the price go >> down? Make a braille display with 12 cells for less than $100 and you'll >> gain my respect as Apple has. But until then, braille, my precious, we >> must be apart in the digital age. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com >> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> >>> My own opinion, since that seems to be the thing for this thread, is >>> that four cells is just not enough. Even assuming spaces don't matter, >>> imagine trying to read a hundred-character message or tweet? Unless >>> there's an ingenious panning solution in this watch, I can't imagine >>> how whacking the "Advance" button twenty-five times would be >>> efficient. Of course, I'd love to try this thing out, as the price is >>> low for what it is, and I'm just intrigued. I'm also very skeptical >>> that this will prove useful. It seems easier to just leave a small >>> braille display hooked on your belt or over your shoulder, if braille >>> is important to you. After all, would that not provide the same kind >>> of silent notification/reply options that a smart watch can? I'm not sure. >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Kerri G <kerri.g1...@icloud.com >>>> <mailto:kerri.g1...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Still further, for my 3 cents worth, which you are also getting for >>>> free, grin, if you are navigating with your guide dog or cane, you >>>> have to stop, put the harness or cane in the other hand and read your >>>> smart watch, this is one time I prefer siri or Talk back or voice over. >>>> We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, >>>> in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner >>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thinking this out a little further, can you wear a 20 cell display >>>>> on your wrist? >>>>> I’m not going to buy one, but just like the apple watch, (which I am >>>>> also not going to buy,) you are paying for the convenience. >>>>> Just my two cents worth, which you are getting for free, grin. >>>>> Richard >>>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:36 AM >>>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> *Subject:* RE: A Braille Smart Watch? >>>>> Let’s think this out. At 4 cells for $300, when you look at 20 >>>>> cells, you’re back in the price range of what you can get a 20-cell >>>>> display for. >>>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:24 PM >>>>> *To:* ViPone list <viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>>>> *Subject:* A Braille Smart Watch? >>>>> I know nothing more than what is in the article below. This was in >>>>> an Email I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought >>>>> some folks might be interested. >>>>> The link to the article is at the end. >>>>> Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch >>>>> Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier >>>>> By Alexandra Ossola >>>>> Posted July 28, 2015 >>>>> now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch# >>>>> Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the >>>>> shifting pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down >>>>> the technological literacy for the blind, but has also impaired >>>>> their reading literacy, cutting them off from most information that >>>>> isn't published in print. Some tech companies have found >>>>> workarounds, like having Siri read texts or creating braille >>>>> e-readers, but they are often clunky and expensive. >>>>> A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution. >>>>> They created >>>>> Dot >>>>> , the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of >>>>> dots. This inexpensive gadget could help the blind catch up to the >>>>> age of smartwatches, the sales of which have increased 475 percent >>>>> in the last year thanks to the Apple Watch. But it could also be >>>>> used as an educational tool. >>>>> “Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for >>>>> example, you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice, >>>>> which is impersonal,” Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim told >>>>> Tech in Asia >>>>> . “Wouldn’t you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend’s >>>>> voice saying it in your head?” >>>>> The Dot wearable looks like a cross between a Fitbit and a Pebble Time, >>>>> Alphr notes >>>>> . On its face, it has four cells each with six active dots, which >>>>> can raise or lower to make four braille letters at a time. It links >>>>> up with Bluetooth to convert text from apps like iMessage into their >>>>> braille letter equivalents with the user’s voice commands. The >>>>> device can last for five days without stopping to charge. >>>>> One key feature of the Dot wearable is its cost. Unlike braille >>>>> e-readers, which can cost thousands of dollars, the device is slated >>>>> to cost less than $300 when it hits the U.S. market in December. >>>>> But Dot envisions bringing braille beyond the wrist. The inventors >>>>> have tested braille screen modules at ATMs and train stations, >>>>> programming them to display information that regularly changes, such >>>>> as account balances or train schedules. After the wearable’s launch >>>>> in December, the startup will shift towards the public sector, >>>>> which it anticipates could be its largest market. >>>>> http://www.popsci.com/now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>>>> default. 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