Indeed braille must never die, but Apple is keeping it alive better than any 
other mobile phone maker in the market. I suspect that when tactile touch 
screens become feasible, Apple accessibility will be the ones to turn the 
iPhone itself into a braille display of sorts.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Braille must never die.
> Audio cannot and will never be comparative to braille, no matter how
> hard anybody tries.
> 
> 
> -Shaf
> 
>> On 8/21/2015 7:10 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Abysmal!
>> 
>> I've written them a number of times ...
>> 
>> Suppose they want us all to give up needing Braille!  <Smiles>
>> 
>> A real pity!
>> 
>> I'd like to see the VI community as a whole write something appropriate
>> about the two areas where Apple fail, IE., Braille translation and
>> displays;  and iTunes (specifically in Windows).  I know you manage it
>> well enough, Jonathan, but many of us struggle and one of the main
>> reasons is because of the frequent changes made with which some cannot
>> keep up.  We just learn enough, bungle around the screen to get the job
>> done ... then it's altered again, and often not in our best interests. 
>> Lots of folk I know just don't use it at all, unless they must;  but
>> that's no fun and not the way I personally would like it to be.
>> 
>> OK, enough said! <Smiles>
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>
>>    *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>    *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 7:05 PM
>>    *Subject:* Re: Pre-orders open for iOS 9 Without the Eye
>> 
>>    Hi Carol, yup, I am seeing no improvement of any significance.
>>    Jonathan Mosen
>>    Mosen Consulting
>>    Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>    http://Mosen.org
>> 
>>>    On 21/08/2015, at 10:44 pm, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
>>>    <mailto:%27carol.pearso...@googlemail.com>' via VIPhone
>>>    <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Jonathan,
>>> 
>>>    If you're able to answer this one:  Are you still of the opinion
>>>    that working with the Braille display (specifically lagging) will
>>>    not improve with iOS9?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>    *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>
>>>>    *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>    *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:18 PM
>>>>    *Subject:* Pre-orders open for iOS 9 Without the Eye
>>>> 
>>>>    Hi everyone, I'm very pleased to let you know that pre-orders are
>>>>    now open for the next edition of the popular iOS Without the Eye
>>>>    series.
>>>>    Apple’s iOS, the mobile operating system powering iPhone®, iPad®
>>>>    and iPod Touch®, will experience a significant and exciting
>>>>    revamp with the release of
>>>>    iOS 9. Despite the fact that Apple has focussed on the stability
>>>>    of the operating system this time around, there is more that’s
>>>>    new than many people realise.
>>>>    That’s allowed me to produce a comprehensive new book on iOS 9 of
>>>>    roughly the same length as its iOS 8 equivalent.
>>>> 
>>>>    "iOS 9 Without the Eye” is ready to be released on the same day
>>>>    Apple releases the operating system.
>>>> 
>>>>    When you master all of iOS 9’s potential, your iOS device will
>>>>    become an even more powerful tool. Make the most of what iOS 9
>>>>    has to offer. Get up and
>>>>    running quickly and easily with a clearly-written, comprehensive,
>>>>    well-structured guide to all that’s new in iOS 9.
>>>> 
>>>>    For much more information about the book, and to pre-order your
>>>>    copy so you'll receive it on iOS release day, please visit this page.
>>>>    http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-9-without-the-eye/
>>>>    Thanks for your ongoing support of Mosen Consulting eBooks and
>>>>    tutorials, I really do appreciate it.
>>>> 
>>>>    Jonathan Mosen
>>>>    Mosen Consulting
>>>>    Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>    http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>> 
>>>>    Jonathan Mosen
>>>>    Mosen Consulting
>>>>    Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>    http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>> 
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