Here’s the latest on this issue from Apple Accessibility. I suspect it’s the final word. Keith
From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:20 PM To: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Subject: RE: iPhone for those with no hand movement; Follow-up: 627217325 Hello, Thank you for your reply. It appears that we provided the wrong path to the setting. We apologize for this error. The correct path is Settings > General > Accessibility > Switch Control > Speech. Switch Control is a feature that was introduced in iOS 7 that allows users to control the device through the use of the screen, camera, or external switches. Switch Control can be configured in a number of different ways to fit the user's method of input, and also includes a speech function which will speak what is currently selected on the screen. Assistive Touch is a feature that allows the user to control certain functions of the device with an on-screen button. This button may be dragged to different points on the screen, and may be configured to perform custom gestures. This feature works with VoiceOver. More information is available via these links from our online user guide: Switch Control<http://help.apple.com/iphone/8/#/iph400b2f114> Assistive Touch<http://help.apple.com/iphone/8/#/iph96b21954> Sincerely, Apple Accessibility On August 24, 2015 at 23:00:47 PM GMT, richard.tur...@state.or.us<mailto:richard.tur...@state.or.us> wrote: Greetings, I hadn’t gotten around to writing about Switch Controls and VoiceOver myself, but one of the people on the VIPhone Users List forwarded a message to you that I had written to the list. The response below from Apple Accessibility is not correct. It says: “In order to use Switch Control with speech, please go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Assistive Touch > Speech to turn the feature on” First, there is no Speech setting in the Assistive Touch settings. The Speech setting is a separate setting in Accessibility. 2. The real question is how can a totally blind person use a switch control on an iPhone. Unless I completely misunderstand the point of the “Speech” settings, they are for people who can see the screen but want some speech feedback. If someone is blind, and has problems using their hands/fingers, and needs a switch control, how is this going to help them? Will having Speak Selection on in the Speech settings speak everything that the person moves over with the switch control device? Is there someone with Apple that I could talk with to get a better understanding if iPhones can be used by our clients who cannot use their fingers to do the gestures to use VoiceOver? Richard Richard Turner MSW Training Center Director Oregon Commission for the Blind 535 SE 12TH AVE Portland, OR 97214 Phone: 971-673-1588 Begin forwarded message: From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <<a href="mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu";>kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu<mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> Date: August 24, 2015 at 2:10:57 PM PDT To: "viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>" <<a href="mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com";>viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: FW: FW: iPhone for those with no hand movement; Follow-up: 627217325 Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Hi, This is from Apple Accessibility. Hope it might be helpful. Keith From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:07 PM To: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Subject: Re: FW: iPhone for those with no hand movement; Follow-up: 627217325 Hello, Thank you for your email. In order to use Switch Control with speech, please go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Assistive Touch > Speech to turn the feature on and select which voice to use. More information is available here: https://help.apple.com/iphone/8/#/iph5cbe7670f. Sincerely, Apple Accessibility On August 24, 2015 at 13:51:58 PM GMT, kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu<mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhone for those with no hand movement The Switch controls that would allow someone to use an external device to run the iPhone can not be used at the same time as VoiceOver. So, blind people with limited hand movement are out of luck right now. We just discovered this at my work. Please, everyone write, or call, Apple Accessibility and point out to them that there are a lot of blind people who need the ability to use switch controls. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. 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