Hi. A lot of times I use my BrailleNote Apex as a Braille display with my 
iPhone, especially when I'm trying to get through a lot of e-mail reading or 
composition. So I have an observation and a question. Others may have said this 
already but it bears repeating: the focus bug seems to occur when I'm exiting a 
message thread. Even using a scrub gesture, I gon't return to the expected 
location in the message list. How would I do a scrub gesture using keystrokes 
on my BrailleNote or any other Braille display? 

Tom



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> On Oct 23, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Walter Ramage <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi.  Yes, pretend there is a little mark on the screen, now use your fingers 
> to pretend you are rubbing  the screen trying to remove the smudge. 
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: 23 October 2015 11:52
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Male focus bug Not fixed
> 
> Hello,
> LOL, that's something that even though friends and everyone said how to, I'm 
> miserably failing. When you say a z shape, for those of us who could never 
> see, is there another way to describe? 
> 
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> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:41 am
> Subject: Re: Male focus bug Not fixed
> 
>> 
>> 
>> hi,
>> A scrub gesture, the best way I can describe it, is assorters Z shape done 
>> with two fingers rather quickly.
>> 
>> hope this helps, Sandy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2015, at 10:28, 'Simon w' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the scrub gesture?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 5:18 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> Using an iPhone 6 and the latest 9.1 I just tried this out: this is not 
>>>> exactly empirical research, but rather than trying the back button to go 
>>>> to the list of email messages, which, in my case, took me back to the top, 
>>>> try a scrub gesture. this took me to the message I was reading.
>>>> Good luck, Sandy
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Oct 2015, at 04:03, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a brand-new iPhone 6s which I received today. It has iOS 9.1. I 
>>>>> have a whole lot of saved mail in my inbox and I found a message down the 
>>>>> list to Waze and read that message. As I understand it, people are saying 
>>>>> that when you exit such a message, you should not  be put back up to the 
>>>>> top of your message list. That is exactly what happened to me. When I 
>>>>> exited that message, I was placed back at the top of my inbox. In this 
>>>>> case, that was not a big deal, as I had no need to be down there where I 
>>>>> had been in the middle of my inbox message list. However, for those who 
>>>>> find this problematic, and I can see how it could be in some scenarios, I 
>>>>> have to say that it did not work for me as others have described.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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